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caffeine
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Message 2611 of 2661 (843299)
11-16-2018 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 2607 by Taq
11-14-2018 6:04 PM


Re: My take
The US Constitution grants the presidency to the winner of the Electoral College. The winner does not require a majority, only a plurality.

Well, yes - we already know the problem. We were discussing better systems to replace this.


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Pressie
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Message 2612 of 2661 (843306)
11-16-2018 6:25 AM
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11-16-2018 3:12 AM


Re: My take
Exactly. One better system would be when state representatives would be compelled to vote for the candidate getting the national majority for a Federal President. That would be democratic.

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vimesey
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Message 2613 of 2661 (843535)
11-19-2018 6:03 AM


Raking it in...
Story about Trump claiming that the Finns go out and rake their extremely extensive forests:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46256296

I can think of three possibilities:

1. Trump's simply lying, secure in the knowledge that his support base doesn't give a crap that he lies, or will believe that the Finns are lying instead.

2. He's too thick to understand what was being said to him.

3. He got bored listening to someone's voice other than his own, and invented some ludicrous bollocks to fill in the gaps in his recollection.

Any other thoughts?

I know two guys, one half Finnish and his cousin 100% Finnish. I can confirm that Finns are not simpletons and do not rake forests. They're usually too busy drinking highly priced alcohol, or having a sauna.

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Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Pressie
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Message 2614 of 2661 (843537)
11-19-2018 6:05 AM


I like Macron.
    
Pressie
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Message 2615 of 2661 (843538)
11-19-2018 6:06 AM
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11-19-2018 6:03 AM


Re: Raking it in...
Trump always lies about everything.
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vimesey
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Message 2616 of 2661 (843539)
11-19-2018 6:07 AM
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11-19-2018 6:03 AM


Re: Raking it in...
Actually:

4. The Finnish President has a bet with his fellow world leaders as to which one of them can make Trump say the stupidest thing.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 2617 of 2661 (843540)
11-19-2018 6:12 AM
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11-19-2018 6:07 AM


Re: Raking it in...
That can't possibly be a bet as Trump always says the most stupidiest things. Evah! Stupedialism.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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vimesey
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Message 2618 of 2661 (843541)
11-19-2018 6:15 AM
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11-19-2018 6:12 AM


Re: Raking it in...
He does set the bar high, that's true.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Pressie
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Message 2619 of 2661 (843542)
11-19-2018 6:19 AM
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11-19-2018 6:15 AM


Re: Raking it in...
Yes, it's a bad time for democracies with Trump around.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Tangle
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Message 2620 of 2661 (843544)
11-19-2018 7:06 AM
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11-19-2018 6:03 AM


Re: Raking it in...
Also - minor point - Finland's climate is a little different to California's. Just a tad wetter. And maybe a bit cooler?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 2621 of 2661 (843545)
11-19-2018 7:08 AM
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11-19-2018 6:03 AM


Re: Raking it in...
Trump is a bullshitter, he wants to blame California for the fires, and his base donít care about the truth. We have ample evidence of that.
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vimesey
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Message 2622 of 2661 (843546)
11-19-2018 7:13 AM
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11-19-2018 7:06 AM


Re: Raking it in...
Indeed - maybe Trump could arrange for large chunks of Finland to be cut up and exported to California to reduce the risk of the fires happening again ;-)

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 2623 of 2661 (843650)
11-19-2018 9:15 PM


Lock her up
https://www.cnn.com/...ump-personal-email-account/index.html
  
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Message 2624 of 2661 (843779)
11-21-2018 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 2610 by Percy
11-15-2018 2:15 PM


Re: I'm Done with Michael Avenatti
Percy writes:

I've shifted from condemning Avenatti to waiting for more news.

Well, more news has finally arrived. We now know who the complainant is and the details of the complaint: Michael Avenatti accuser says he dragged her, left her with marks on skin

Summarizing, the complainant is actress Mareli Miniutti. She's been in eight or so movies. Her website is down (www.mareliminiutti.com). She says she and Avenatti got in an argument over money, that he appeared threatening, hit her with pillows, yelled at her, grabbed her cellphone, then dragged her out of the apartment and out into the hallway in her underwear and T-shirt, during which she was scratched. She says it's not the first time he's been aggressive with her. She's taken out a restraining order against Avenatti.

I believe the woman. Until proven otherwise Avenatti has disqualified himself as a politician. Stormy Daniels, Julie Swetnick and the unnamed complainants against Trump should fire him as their lawyer.

--Percy


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Message 2625 of 2661 (843844)
11-21-2018 9:52 PM
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11-21-2018 12:00 PM


Re: I'm Done with Michael Avenatti
I believe the woman. Until proven otherwise Avenatti has disqualified himself as a politician.

He may well be guilty, but this is a guilty until proven innocent system. In what conceivable way might Avenatti "prove himself innocent"?

Moose


Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


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