Christianity and the End Times

At first viewing that video does make you wonder how we could be hearing those clanking and scraping sounds if there is no atmosphere to transmit them, but I think that's because one automatically assumes the microphone is attached to the camera, which of course it isn't.

So much for "basic forum decency." You are the worst offender by far, but nobody is bothering to enforce the rules any more.

It would be nice to be able to put this to rest without much more hassle but now I'm curious. I've never doubted the moon landings or the whole space program, but just for the sake of the mental exercise could someone try to explain why there is sound on the moon video but not on the space station?I listened to the earlier video jaywill posted in Message 1366 where they mention the interpretation I came up with about the sound being transmitted through the space suit, and dismiss it. All the scientists here ought to be able to come up with an explanation for this apparent discrepancy even if it is annoying because they don't have any reason to doubt the space program.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That's pretty ;much what I already said, and then it turns out it was the same answer given by others, but then it got answered in turn in that video which I guess you didn't check out. All mediums don't transmit sound exactly the same way. A drum won't transmit the sound of metal clanking on metal.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Interesting. Is that Witness Lee? Or Watchman Nee?I think of salvation as regeneration of the spirit we lost at the Fall, never thought in terms of a literal sowing of the divine nature into us.

This states the Fall:
Romans 5:12

Romans 5:12 is quite unambiguous in the case of Adam

Read it. It's unambiguous. As every sane exegete for centuries has affirmed.

I think of the spirit we lost at the Fall as our own human faculty that had the ability to communicate with God, not the life of God in us. But it makes sense that this is God's plan for His redeemed humanity, since we now have the indwelling Holy Spirit. Whatever we are will be more than Adam and Eve originally had.The quote says sin ENTERED INTO THE WORLD through Adam, and through sin death. There is nothing there to justify the idea that death preceded Adam's sin.The reason people were saved before Christ's death is that they had true faith and even looked forward to the prophesied Messiah, so that when Jesus came they were saved by His death. There is nothing in Adam's sin even remotely comparable to this retroactive salvation. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes, I see that it is very scriptural, I just hadn't quite put it all together before. The terms "sowing" and "seed" in this context are unfamiliar but I always love finding new meanings and depths in scripture.I don't know why but I'd always thought of the new birth as a recovery of the functions of the spirit we lost at the Fall, but what you are saying makes more sense. Scripture says, after all, that we are "new creatures." Every word of scripture bears deep thought and meditation doesn't it?Ever since I got convinced that there is going to be a pretribulation Rapture, not of any particular timing but just that it is going to happen, I've been a lot more dedicated in my prayer time. And your views of all this increase my determination even more. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It's a bit oblique but we ARE talking about the end times: the ultimate goal of Christ's work in us, the point of it all, which won't be revealed until his second coming.

There is quite a bit. The Bible talks about ending sin forever, remaking the Creation -- a new heavens and new Earth, making believing human beings into "Sons of God," it also mentions that we will judge angels which sounds like a task prepared for us at the end. And that's just a few things that come to mind

If you have no idea what those things mean I'm certainly not going to be able to help you with that.As for what is unique to Christianity all of it is.

That's cute coming from the all-time champion of unsupported assertions. It's your job to show that it's not unique to Christianity by quoting some other source of the same promises.

There is no such thing as a dated prophecy. The closest thing to that is Daniel's prophecy of the seventy weeks, 69 of which count to the time of Christ's first coming, but even then most of the Jews missed it. Prophecy includes descriptions of signs to look for in order to know it's close; we have the responsibility to figure it out ourselves, and if our calculations and guesses are wrong that doesn't make scripture wrong.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.