Christianity and the End Times

ringo writes:Paying for our sins" is a rubbish concept. If God wants to forgive us, He can just forgive us. The "payment' is something that HE arbitrarily requires, so He can just drop it.
Did you ever see The Godfather? "You have done me a great disservice. Kill my son and we'll call it even." Do you see how stupid that sounds?

Faith writes:The Fall is the reason Jesus had to die, as God promised Adam and Eve right after their disobedience that He would send a Savior.

Faith writes:This prophecy is considered to be a pretty condensed presentation of a lot of theology in one place. It prophesies that it is the woman whose seed will war with the serpent, because He was the seed of Mary and not of Joseph, since His Father was God. And this is a sort of reversal of Eve's sin at the same time.Bruising the heel of a man isn't going to do much damage as compared to bruising the head of a snake. And by bruising his head Jesus defeated him so that he could never regain the power he won in Eden when he seduced Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. He continues to seduce and torment humanity but he's lost the war which won't be fully realized until the end of the Millennium which follows on Jesus' Second Coming.

Faith writes:You cannot dismiss the conclusions of centuries of theological thought that way.

Faith writes:It is knowledge, it is all based on careful exegesis of the scripture, one part of scripture compared to all the other parts.

Faith writes:The term "bruise his heel" doesn't seem strong enough to me to describe what Jesus endured in dying for us,

but I gather the idea is that He triumphed over it whereas the serpent did have a deadly wound that ended his career.

Jaywill writes:Tangle, some of us are here examining the Second Coming of Christ and the end of the age

In route we see from the Bible something of human origins, human nature, the human purpose for existence, THE human problem, the destiny of humanity, the universe, and the climax of the eternal purpose of the Creator, and an example of a Perfect human life along with His availability to experience and live with.

What in YOUR philosophy do you offer me that is superior to the teaching of Jesus Christ and the Bible ? Take a post to explain something of what I would gain by dropping my faith in Christ and picking up your philosophy of life.

Jaywill writes:I undersrtand the situation. You have NOTHING. You have nothing because you're empty and clueless about our origin or destiny.You're tangled up in an inescapable labyrinth of your own blindness.
Tangle, you're tangled up in hopelessness of your unbelief.

Jaywill writes:Where would you cast then your vote for the most powerful personality that has ever lived if not Jesus of Nazareth?Who are you more impressed with?

Jaywill writes:How come Western civilization's concept of time is not divided between "Before Baggins" and "In the Year of Baggins," the way they divided world history into "Before Christ" and "In the Year of Our Lord" - BC and AD ?

Try again with an arguably historical person of historicity. There are plenty of people to choose from. You don't have to resort to Marvel Comics or Mother Goose Fairy Tales.

jaywill writes:Yes, you certainly have proved that you can have many happy hours of reading the Hobbit. That will at least keep your mind busy on fun while your waiting to die. Don't have to even think about life's meaning.

Live for entertainment, why don't you?

Jaywill writes:I didn't initially believe all the history told in the Bible.

Jaywill writes:And you believe that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon.

And an ape gave birth to a human who all came from a rock by accident by a 100 trillion lucky mistakes.

How many atheists does it take to change a light bulb?None. They figure that if they wait long enough the light bulb will change itself.

Ringo writes:How many Christians does it take to change a light bulb?