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madeofstarstuff
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Message 72 of 80 (264547)
11-30-2005 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by cavediver
11-16-2005 1:15 PM


Re: More questions.
Cavediver:
Someone (madeofstarstuff?) was asking a while back about the significance of photon interactions to our understadnign of reality
I am still interested in this topic. I only just now found this thread and decided to read it. I have a fair understanding of the diagrams you drew. As I understand it the positron is nothing more than an electron going back in time. The illusion (or reality) of a photon creating an electron-positron pair is really an electron going backward through time absorbing a photon that changes its energy so that it travels forward in time. Of course the two (electron and positron) are seen at the same time from our perspective, but they are the same electron? I've also read where perhaps all electrons are actually the same electron travelling back in time, seen as positrons in reverse and electrons forward. It went on to say that there aren't enough positrons to balance this so it must not be true. Nevertheless, that it confusing.
What I was originally wondering was, is the "shaking of hands" between electrons and photons and subsequent "scratching of the head" by electrons the only thing that produces our perception of time? I see at as though the photon instantaneously relocates itself from one electron to another. The electron then has to "decide" what information this photon is presenting, and then act accordingly. Perhaps this is crude, but is this "processing within the electron" what gives us the sensation of passage of time. It is responsible for the apparent "decrease" in light's speed through matter also, right?
There must be something wrong with this idea because photons traverse "empty" space through time without electron intervention. That is unless virtual particles (electron-positron pairs) popping in and out of existence are interacting with the photons again bringing rise to the sensation of passage of time. Whew, I'm confused.
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madeofstarstuff
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Message 73 of 80 (264634)
12-01-2005 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by cavediver
11-18-2005 5:59 PM


Re: More questions.
Cavediver explaining RP2:
For contrast, the whole surface of a globe can be imagined as a disc with the circumference identified as a single pont, the south pole in our example.
I had you up to this point, could you clarify this sentence?

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madeofstarstuff
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Message 77 of 80 (265536)
12-04-2005 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by cavediver
12-03-2005 8:24 AM


Re: More questions.
Cavediver:
There's no real processing. It's just a case of adding two functions together
What's the difference between a photon's instantaneous travel and an electron's necessity to travel through time as well, relying on the photon's information for instructions?
Here is what confuses me, from a photon's perspective it's motion is entirely dedicated to motion through space. From our perspective it is also moving, only slightly, through time as well. Is there any meaning or reality to the space in between "here" and "there" to a photon? There obviously is from our perspective, we can influence light "during" its trip. Of course then all we have really done is introduce a new instantaneous ending for the photon that it already knew about. But how could a photon from the other end of the universe instantaneously relocate to something (say a mirror in a telescope on Earth) that didn't even exist when it left?

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