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nator
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Message 22 of 113 (252660)
10-18-2005 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by NosyNed
09-02-2005 2:05 PM


Re: Read carefully first
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With a family member in the medical profession it is not a surprise to me that there are many poorly done studies with utterly nonsensical statistics. It is no big news at all. (Of course, a significant part in this problem is played by the drug companies).
I also think that the "publish or perish" atmosphere that most research universities perpetuate has contributed to the glut of published papers.
Universities want to see their researchers cranking out lots of papers and bringing in lots of grant money because that's how they have decided to measure success.
This pressure is not conducive to great quality.
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 10-18-2005 08:17 AM

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nator
Member (Idle past 2201 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 23 of 113 (252662)
10-18-2005 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Nighttrain
10-18-2005 5:29 AM


Re: Green Onions
quoteAny refutation of claims for the initial study will probably never make it to mainline sources and only appear in a professional journal at best. It was a study, it appeared with a scientific aroma (or the makings of one), and it never got denied by news at 11.[/quote]
This is really true.
This is why we still have people asking for nitrate-free cured meats.
It was reported that "nitrates in bacon cause cancer" some decades ago. However, this referred to the huge amounts of nitrates a German company figured out one could inject into a side of bacon and cure it in a matter of hours. Traditionally (as opposed to industrial mass production), very small amounts of mitrates are used at the start and over the several weeks of a natural cure, are converted into nitrous oxide (a gas) and exit the product.
Therefore, traditionally-made cured meats have very small or nil levels of nitrates in them, not the mega-amounts which were implicated in cancer back then.
But all the consumer ever remembers is "nitrates cause cancer!"

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