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lfen
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Message 71 of 113 (284835)
02-08-2006 2:31 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by nwr
02-08-2006 12:50 AM


Re: replication?
Your mistake is to assume that something devious is happening.
nwr,
But ... but ... Rman is never mistaken! because he only quotes the facts from the Holy Bible which is the absolute inerrant accurate explanation from the creator of the universe as understood by those who really know such as Randman himself!
If science agreed with Randman and the Bible, science would be correct. Since there are scientists who disagree with the Bible something devious is going on, and we all know that devious mastermind H is behind this.
So we have established that science is a devious plot by Satan through his agent H to subvert the word of God by godless logic and science.
Randman is only trying to protect the truth from the world wide plot of scientist to foist science, logic, evidence and all kinds of unchristian unbibical error off on people who should be going to the right church and being taught the right religion instead of being lured into all this unbibical science and logic folderol.
If there is no devious plot going on how come science is being taught and studied in all these universities and laboratories, huh?! If that isn't evidence of a devious satanic evolutionist plot then I don't know what is!
lfen, who wonders where the Spanish Inquistion is when we need it? (the one with John Cleese and Python crew)

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lfen
Member (Idle past 4708 days)
Posts: 2189
From: Oregon
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Message 73 of 113 (284838)
02-08-2006 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by nwr
02-08-2006 12:50 AM


Re: replication?
Your mistake is to assume that something devious is happening.
nwr,
But ... but ... Rman is never mistaken! because he only quotes the facts from the Holy Bible which is the absolute inerrant accurate explanation from the creator of the universe as understood by those who really know such as Randman himself!
If science agreed with Randman and the Bible, science would be correct. Since there are scientists who disagree with the Bible something devious is going on, and we all know that devious mastermind H is behind this.
So we have established that science is a devious plot by Satan through his agent H to subvert the word of God by godless logic and science.
Randman is only trying to protect the truth from the world wide plot of scientist to foist science, logic, evidence and all kinds of unchristian unbibical error off on people who should be going to the right church and being taught the right religion instead of being lured into all this unbibical science and logic folderol.
If there is no devious plot going on how come science is being taught and studied in all these universities and laboratories, huh?! If that isn't evidence of a devious satanic evolutionist plot then I don't know what is!
lfen, who wonders where the Spanish Inquistion is when we need it? (the one with John Cleese and Python crew)

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lfen
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Joined: 06-24-2004


Message 95 of 113 (285913)
02-11-2006 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Omnivorous
02-11-2006 8:15 PM


Re: Reagan started our long slide down to mediocrity.
Reagan began the process of transforming the U.S. from the scientific powerhouse of the world into a second-rate has-been. How was the attack he started--and his neo-con descendants have continued--on funding for basic science good for this country?
Well coupled with the increased spending for maintaining military and economical control of the world this may hasten the fall of the American Empire. The rush of Imperial power can not be denied so we can only hope for a swift return to being an ordinary country that is focused on minding its own business, helping its citizens, and cooperating with its neighbors.
If reduced progress in science helps bring that day closer I should say it's a good thing. Of course it will be a painful readjustment but England seems to be managing with its loss of empire. Hopefully we will do as well as the English.
lfen

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lfen
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Message 99 of 113 (285973)
02-12-2006 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Omnivorous
02-11-2006 10:33 PM


Re: Reagan started our long slide down to mediocrity.
I don't care about maintaining the U.S. as an imperial world power. I'm sorry if I gave that impression, Ifen, though I'm not sure how criticsm of the Great Militarist himself could have done that.
Oh, I knew that and wasn't attributing it to you. I was just looking for the silver lining in the dark cloud and pointing out that Reagen's love of imperial power sowed the seeds of its own demise. I wasn't exactly even trying to cheer you up, but was just suggesting a view point that might make the bitter pill easier to swallow. Science remains an international activity and though I agree with you that it's unfortunate that the wealth of this country is being harnassed by imperialist for their own power and enrichment their actions are shortening their window of opportunity as Bush and his cohorts spend this country back to being just another nation. I think being just another nation is a good thing btw. I don't see empire as good.
Sadly, I don't think the American Empire will accept its sunset as gracefully as the British Empire has (and even that is arguable, given its current yoking to Bush's ass).
Well, Britian was an empire for a quite a spell. America is not yet weary of the burden but it's only been about half a century since it emerge from WWII as the Imperial power in this world. Historical time scales for empire are usually longer than typical human life span.
I suppose I am consoling myself and offering this consolation to you that as obnoxiously shortsighted as these actions are they are to some extent self limiting. Empire has its own momentum and life cycle and the intoxication of wealth and power is so heady that I don't know of any peoples who have successfully resisted it. So all we can do is record it as we watch it run its course and do our best to behave as well as we can.
lfen

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