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joshua221 
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Message 3 of 304 (267620)
12-10-2005 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ned_Flanders
12-10-2005 5:31 PM


As a creationist, I see science as a pursuit for understanding of what is on this observable earth. For me, Science comes after Faith in God. I am in advanced bio, chemistry, and will take physics, in H.S. I believe that I understand the mechanics of evolution, but they simply don't matter to me as much as the truth I have began to believe in and understand. Evolution promotes a life without purpose for humanity, see my other thread if you'd like.
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these walls are paper thin
and everyone hears every little sound.

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joshua221 
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Message 9 of 304 (267656)
12-10-2005 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Ned_Flanders
12-10-2005 8:18 PM


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But do you think a lack of education in science is a big result of people choosing creationism over evolution?
The statistics show that college graduates are more apt to believe in evolution, this may be from the constant barrage of majority opinion, evidence, and data while in school. When you drop out, or go on to work, you don't have to fight for your beliefs against anyone, but in college, those few that arrive with beliefs against evolution are finally molded by the majority of people there, it's rather disturbing really. Because the evidence is really part of a system that will be gone anyway, when you die, when this world is gone.
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Do you think there are many creationists who have advanced education in science such as yourself?
No, creationists would not want to waste their lives on such a worthless pursuit. They would be ready to spend time in theology programs, to study God, or other particular studies such as philosophy. The mindsets are very different for these two specific groups of people. Evolutionists are usually well versed in science, and mathematics, both studies dedicated to the measurable world, whereas, creationists might not even consider college, or advanced education. It becomes deeply personal, people are different, but I'm really not sure on why there is a trend between education and people of the ID philosophy. Each is probably a different story. I see what you mean though, this doesn't look too good for those who would want a community of intellectuals for their argument.

these walls are paper thin
and everyone hears every little sound.

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joshua221 
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Message 18 of 304 (267780)
12-11-2005 1:44 PM
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12-11-2005 8:20 AM


Charlie! Or was that intended?
quote:
Yeah, it really is stupid that we waste any time trying to use scienct to cure disease or anything.
I know there are many benefits to science, and math, but as hypocritical as it may seem, none of it will matter someday, don't you agree?

Your body may be gone, I'm gonna carry you in.
In my head, in my heart, in my soul.
And maybe we'll get lucky and we'll both live again.
Well I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Don't think so.

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joshua221 
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Message 33 of 304 (267837)
12-11-2005 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Trixie
12-11-2005 5:07 PM


Re: Charlie! Or was that intended?
We are not on the same page. I cite classes dedicated to work in mathematics, and science, in the measurment of this world. You have said that these things are essential for the benefit of human kind, but what is greater? The benefits on this life here on earth, or the relationship you build here with God. ?

Your body may be gone, I'm gonna carry you in.
In my head, in my heart, in my soul.
And maybe we'll get lucky and we'll both live again.
Well I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Don't think so.

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joshua221 
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Message 155 of 304 (268383)
12-12-2005 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Trixie
12-11-2005 5:28 PM


Re: Charlie! Or was that intended?
I give two hoots, you've taken it too far, and have begun the misconstruing process.

Your body may be gone, I'm gonna carry you in.
In my head, in my heart, in my soul.
And maybe we'll get lucky and we'll both live again.
Well I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Don't think so.

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joshua221 
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Message 156 of 304 (268385)
12-12-2005 7:11 PM


Whatever, randman seems to have taken over. lol

Your body may be gone, I'm gonna carry you in.
In my head, in my heart, in my soul.
And maybe we'll get lucky and we'll both live again.
Well I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Don't think so.

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