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Message 1186 of 1269 (844067)
11-24-2018 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1172 by creation
11-24-2018 2:52 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
You thought poor little science has the knowledge or ability to get the knowledge of how deep the fountains of the deep were?? Ha.

Actually, science only deals with reality. So, yah, it's kinda hard to know what your mind can contrive.

Show us a 'fountain of the deep'.

They are ignorant of such things. Woefully. Willingly. Gleefully. Totally.

And you know all about it?

Heh, heh ...


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Message 1187 of 1269 (844068)
11-24-2018 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1178 by creation
11-24-2018 3:37 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
So there is a trend to find more iridium deeper down. The evidence mounts.

Yep, but no evidence that it was erupted into a global sedimentary deposit.

Sorry.


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edge
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Message 1188 of 1269 (844069)
11-24-2018 8:06 PM
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11-24-2018 3:22 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
However, I happen to know my Friend that made the planet, and have details of the materials He uses in other projects.

So, when are you going to present these details?

Material such as Gold and diamonds and rubies, and topaz and amethyst, and spiritual materials, and lapis lazuli, and emerald for example.

So you are a new ager, yes?

Please present to us the spirtual properties of gold.

The model of the inner earth science offers has us living on fire and dirt in a fluke universe..etc etc.

Fire?

Dirt?

How do you know it is a 'fluke universe'? You have some others to compare it to?


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 1189 of 1269 (844070)
11-24-2018 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1188 by edge
11-24-2018 8:06 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
I fear you have fallen into the trap of expecting the troll's words to represent something in the real world. That appears not to be the case. It appears that its use of language is more akin to Mark Twain's character Mr. Ballou, who used words for their resonance and grandeur rather than their meaning. Words, for this person, are more akin to a mantra, a drone, a soothing and repetitive collection of sounds. Kind of like really bad scat singing without the music. The lack of connection to reality is of no concern.
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Message 1190 of 1269 (844074)
11-24-2018 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1181 by creation
11-24-2018 3:45 PM


Re: Evidence of fountain of the deep
The issue is not what science knows about fountains of the deep but what you know.

Either you have something to say that is worth listening to or you are a poser looking for attention.


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Message 1191 of 1269 (844078)
11-25-2018 3:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1182 by Tanypteryx
11-24-2018 3:55 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Some of the earmarks of the great flood of Noah were that all animals and people on earth, save those on the ark all died. That qualifies as a great extinction if ever anything ever did! The water also came from space and below the earth and that is where science says iridium also comes from.


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Message 1192 of 1269 (844079)
11-25-2018 3:18 AM
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11-24-2018 4:21 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Yes. The interpretation that is wrong is that the iridium was from space object that caused the great extinction of the time.
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Message 1193 of 1269 (844080)
11-25-2018 3:19 AM
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11-24-2018 4:32 PM


Re: Evidence of fountain of the deep
No. Not 'something'. But science foists itself on people as more than just beliefs. That is the sin.
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Message 1194 of 1269 (844081)
11-25-2018 3:20 AM
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11-24-2018 4:38 PM


Re: Iiridium layer during flood
You have failed to defend your religion. Don't try throwing stones at superior beliefs.
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Message 1195 of 1269 (844082)
11-25-2018 3:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1186 by edge
11-24-2018 7:59 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Using the word reality does not make you related. Sorry. Asking us to show you some conduit to the inner earth that existed thousands of years ago only, is awfully foolish.
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Message 1196 of 1269 (844083)
11-25-2018 3:23 AM
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11-24-2018 8:03 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Let's look then if the KT layer involves any sediment!
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Message 1197 of 1269 (844084)
11-25-2018 3:27 AM
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11-24-2018 8:06 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
It is not a chance/fluke universe. It is created. Intelligently. It is science that says things happened for no reason. The big bang, why did it happen in your religion? Life on earth, why did it happen in your religion, if not by random happenstance!?

As for details of materials Jesus used in a project, google New Jerusalem and what materials He used to build it,


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Message 1198 of 1269 (844085)
11-25-2018 3:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1189 by Capt Stormfield
11-24-2018 9:43 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
I could drive a mac truck through the gaping holes in your science/religion. I can see why you resort to obscure whining rather than join those trying to defend their faith here!

But I guess it is almost time for Raz to demand that no one post anymore 'off topic'! (being defeated like the rest of y'all, what else could he do to try and save face?)

So unless someone posts on topic here and something of substance, I guess I'll try to let the thread R.I.P. Ha.


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Message 1199 of 1269 (844092)
11-25-2018 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1137 by creation
11-21-2018 2:11 PM


Re: Prometheus evidence vs fantasy, Prometheus vs fantasy, Prometheus 9, fantasy 0
What is in question, is not how patterns of C14 exist in ancient tree rings and other sources. The ehing that is off kilter here is that you were asked about specific tree rings (pre 4500 year old rings) in a certain tree, and the response involved a chart that had nothing to do with that. Instead it charted some patterns supposed going far far back in time.

Message 1138: You were asked about the HUNDREDS of rings on the specific tree that was living that YOU made specific claims about actually! Not 'one' ring'!

Cut the smoke and mirrors and admit the astounding fail.

The problem is that I do not need to have pictures of every ring on every one of the samples used. Why? because they are documented multifold times and in not one instance has there been any question about them being annual rings. I've shown you pictures with "HUNDREDS of rings on the specific tree" and noted that there are other sources for your enquiry.

Those sources are all I need to show correlation between actual measured C14 levels and tree ring age. Those diagrams (like this one):

show measured amount of C14 converted in raw C14 age by a mathematical formula (Libby).

There is no need to show any one ring along the bottom, because they are documented in the studies -- the information is there, OR you can contact the authors for it.

I don't need pictures of specific rings to show the correlation.

Message 1: The challenge for the creationist is not just to describe how a single method can be wrong, but how they can all be wrong at the same time and yet produce identical results - when the errors in different systems should produce different random results.

The correlations are the issue, not specific tidbits of data -- something you are still avoiding.

Seems like while I was away you ran off at the mouth with a bunch of totally irrelevant garbage that has nothing to do with correlations.

Typical creationist ploy -- try to change the topic when you can't deal with the correlations.

I just clicked on the link and it works fine!

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/01/17/1613144114

I'll get to this when I have more time, but I'll say this: I don't think it says what you seem to think it says.

Enjoy

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 1200 of 1269 (844094)
11-25-2018 10:18 AM
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11-25-2018 3:32 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
...and right on cue the pigeon shits on the chessboard and flies away proclaiming victory.
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