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A reinterpretation of the Creation Account

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Rahvin
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08-03-2005 3:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Jor-el
08-03-2005 3:12 PM

Re: Mental Gymnastics?
Please elaborate on what a practicing christian believes then.
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I think I smell a "No true Scotsman" fallacy coming...
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08-03-2005 4:31 PM 		Reply to: Message 29 by Jor-el
08-03-2005 4:05 PM

Re: Mental Gymnastics?
Don't mean to be out of place here, but since Jar went to the store...
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Jar never said there was NO sin. Just that we don't need ORIGINAL sin. Everybody sins anyway - why do we need Adam's sin to explain it?
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08-03-2005 6:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 32 by Jor-el
08-03-2005 6:26 PM

Re: Mental Gymnastics?
(1) Death is universal (Romans 4:12,14), all die: sinless infants, moral people, religious people, equally with the depraved. For a universal effect there must be a universal cause; that cause is a state of universal sin (Romans 5:12).
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If we all die becuase of original sin, but Jesus was sacrificed to erase that sin, why do people, at the least Christians, still die? If Jesus wiped it away, its effects should be gone.
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