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Author Topic:   Where Faith Comes From in the "moderate" Christian religions
anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 61 of 132 (513350)
06-28-2009 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Peg
06-28-2009 6:36 AM


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In the 5th century BCE, the Greek philosopher Empedocles believed in spontaneous generation, gradual evolution of organisms and survival of the fittest. Not long after that, Aristotle taught that "man is the highest point of one long and continuous ascent." They started the idea of evolution and it certainly wasnt based on the scientific method then, nor do I believe it is today.
As has been said before ad infinitum, evolution has no discrimination other than adaption (much to the consternation of tribalists). Therefore, Aristotle didn't know, or even begin to propose any TOE, as understood by anyone with remote familiarity with the works of Darwin.
Also, I am curious as to what qualifies you to be the judge of what constitutes the scientific method as to my knowledge, you have yet to admit you made a mistake when declaring that it took an immense amount of energy (as opposed to a mere spark) to turn hydrogen and oxygen to water.
To never admit a mistake is a severe character flaw, to actually be proud of ignorance and revel in this state should be considered a mental disease. Perhaps the upcoming DSM 5 will mention this form of mental illness.
Edited by anglagard, : add 'form of'

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 867 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 64 of 132 (513354)
06-28-2009 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Peg
06-28-2009 7:39 AM


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Peg writes:
stupid i know, but a fact none the less.
Perhaps you, as so many others have done, find a way to view the Bible in the broad and intended meaning of the basic message as opposed to some puny, contradictory, paper 'godlet' that must never be thought about other than superficially.
I am still puzzled by your dogmatism. Why do you hate science and democracy? Is it family, the local tribe, or has some charismatic come between you and God?

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 867 days)
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 66 of 132 (513358)
06-28-2009 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Peg
06-28-2009 8:15 AM


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Peg writes:
dogmatism?
i hate science and democracy???
im sure evolution doesnt cover ALL the sciences. just because i dont believe in evolution doesnt mean i dont believe in other sciences.
And where does democracy come into it??? Am i undemocratic because i dont believe in evolution???
Ignorance of history, like ignorance of science, is a curable condition. Perhaps a new thread concerning the breadth and depth of the enlightenment would be appropriate. I consider it a topic in and of itself worth considering but if not severely narrowed, could explode beyond the narrow confines of the rules of this forum. Perhaps there may be a way, I'll see what I can do.
Also, please remember, like they said in the Godfather, it's business, not personal.
Edited by anglagard, : se instead of see, am i conjuring a roman?

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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