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Author Topic:   Where Faith Comes From in the "moderate" Christian religions
lyx2no
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Message 26 of 132 (513204)
06-26-2009 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Peg
06-25-2009 4:39 AM


Faith
Even those who dont believe in God/gods, they do believe in something that caused our being, ie evolution....this shows that even if one doesn't believe in a God/gods, they still yearn for knowledge, meaning and wisdom.
For once I agree with Peg. But I believe it is this drive that caused the Bible to be written. Faith comes from wonder and innocence.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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Message 29 of 132 (513218)
06-26-2009 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Theodoric
06-26-2009 8:59 AM


π
After all this time you would think you would have learned at least something about evolution. Or is it just pure dishonesty in trying to promote your beliefs?
If Peg were talking about evolution I'd agree with you 100%, and maybe because of Peg's history it's still not an excusable inexactitude; but, scheesh, cut her a break.
If I said π is 3.14159 I'd expect agreement. If I said π is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter: π=3.14159 I'd expect you to correct me to say "∏≈3.14159: an irrational number. Its decimal representation neither ends nor repeats."

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 33 of 132 (513232)
06-26-2009 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Theodoric
06-26-2009 1:17 PM


Re:
What she said is wrong.
Agreed.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 51 of 132 (513306)
06-27-2009 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Peg
06-27-2009 9:03 AM


Faith Done Me Wrong
Jees! Peg. I go and defend you (to some small degree) and then you go and say:
Evolution DOES contradict the basic bible teaching that God created us in his own image.
You just couldn't leave well enough alone, could you?
When you said:
Even those who dont believe in God/gods, they do believe in something that caused our being, ie evolution
I was allowing that you might have been saying it in the gist of we being a product of evolution. (As opposed to evolution having something to do with abiogenesis.)
evolution does not require a God, it happened miraculously
And rocks fall to Earth miraculously too, I suppose?
I had faith in you, Peg. Now if I'm ever sitting in a courtyard and a servant girl comes to me and say, "You also were with Peg," I'll deny it before them all. "I don't know what you're talking about," I'll say. And then if I go out to the gateway, where another girl sees me and says to the people there, "This fellow was with Peg." I'll deny it again, with an oath: "I don't know the woman!" And, if after a little while, those standing there come up to me and say, "Surely you are one of them, for your accent gives you away." Then I'll call down curses on myself and swear to them, "I don't know the woman!"
See if I don't

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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Message 67 of 132 (513363)
06-28-2009 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Peg
06-28-2009 6:54 AM


Re: Faith Done Me Wrong
God is good
But God was glib
When He made Eve
From Adam's rib
Edited by lyx2no, : One too many "o"s in God.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 71 of 132 (513438)
06-28-2009 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Theodoric
06-28-2009 7:08 PM


Re: Sigh of exasperation
THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AND SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES.
I think you're going to have a hard time convincing Peg of this in light of this little gem.
I think your exasperation is getting to you.
Edited by lyx2no, : Typo.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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Message 73 of 132 (513440)
06-28-2009 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Theodoric
06-28-2009 8:14 PM


Re: Sigh of exasperation
I will edit my post
And ruin my fun.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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