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Author Topic:   Why is belief necessary?
jar
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Message 3 of 94 (155631)
11-03-2004 9:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Morte
11-03-2004 9:11 PM


You actually have at least three question buried in there.
First, you need belief for any religion. GOD is not something that can be studied or evaluated by science, it's not an area where you'll find much objective evidence.
However, I'm presented with the idea of a loving, benevolent God... who condemns souls to damnation for simply not believing in the right idea.
We covered that very question Here.
In a similar manner, I cannot comprehend the portrayal of mere thoughts and feelings as sins that separate us from God.
I would tend to agree in most cases. If it is an uncontroled thought I doubt that it would be considered much if any of a sin. The limitation for me would be an intentional act. If you set out intentionally to have certain thoughts I could see how that could be a sin. One example might be planning and fantacising about doing major harm to another.

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jar
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Message 57 of 94 (156357)
11-05-2004 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by PaulK
11-05-2004 1:40 PM


Re: Hpw do I convince a room of skeptics?
What I do find insulting is the misrepresentations, and the attempts to insinuate that it is morally wrong not to believe that God exists.
I couldn't agree more. That is a very important point. Thank you sir.

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jar
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Message 88 of 94 (157588)
11-09-2004 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by purpledawn
11-09-2004 8:44 AM


OT warning alert but I couldn't help it.
Oddly enough some of my Christian friends don't approve of our diet. We basically eat real food. They assume we have gone kosher, which we aren't.
I found that statement absolutely shocking. In fact, I think it surprised me more than even some of the dialog from our fundamentalist members.
Why in the world would anyone care if you kept Kosher?

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jar
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Message 90 of 94 (157707)
11-09-2004 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by purpledawn
11-09-2004 12:46 PM


Re: OT warning alert but I couldn't help it.
It's a set of practices, that's all. Practices.
You know, their reaction seems to me to be about as bizarre as folk getting upset if you adopted the Atkins diet or went sugar free.
I'm sorry, but some folk just have way too much free time on their hands.

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