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Author Topic:   Revealing the Truth to People (false signs and wonders)
iceage 
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Message 21 of 25 (356150)
10-12-2006 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
10-11-2006 7:58 AM


I am on it
Riverrat you can rest assured I am actively investigating these supernatural gemstones.
You are correct that if you have a Christian leaning you would not want to see fraud working in the name of God. I am not saying this is fraud. I am approaching this as unbiased as I can.
The church is in my neighborhood and i even know some people involved. I have several emails in with them right now. I am offering to pay for a Gemologist report. Stay tuned for more info.
As it sits right now they are not responding except for one email where they claim that the experts cannot tell what they are, and the only test available now is a destructive test which the do not feel is right. I still await their reply.
You can find frameshots from their videos at:
Gemstones From Heaven
Extreme Prophetic also is talking about Angelic Orbs. I have looking for a video on these "orbs".
Also, as for your comment on integrity. At the Gateway Fellowship in their values declaration you can find this statement...
Gateway Fellowship writes:
7. We want to be “naturally supernatural.” We value simplicity and do not want to operate in hype. We value integrity and reality, especially in the area of reporting on healings and manifestations in meetings. We desire to avoid using “religious” communication so that our message can be understood by all.
I am relying on this valued statement that they will do "due dilligence" and get the gemstones tested by an independent certified Gemologist and release the report to their congregation and the public. At this point I think all they have is the opinion of someone at a mall jewelery store. In addition, this mall jeweler was envision in a dream to be the one to examine these stones - which sounds, as a casual outside observer, a little questionable.
In the third video they have identified this Angel that is delivering these stones. Her name is "Emma" and she is always associated prosperity. The gemstones are claimed to be symbols of prosperity.
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iceage 
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Message 24 of 25 (356337)
10-13-2006 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by riVeRraT
10-13-2006 8:16 AM


Re: I am on it
Yep. At this point they are ignoring my emails. But will try to get an appointment to see someone in the leadership next week.
Also sent an email to Patricia King at extremeprophetic.com last night:
quote:
I have intently watched your video production on the Gemstones in Coeur
d'Alene Idaho. In one of your video's you are clear on the necessity of due
diligence concerning the veracity of these events. I could not agree more
strongly.
The most obvious due diligence act would be to identify these gemstones.
I have been trying to contact the Gateway Fellowship and have offered to pay
for a certified Gemologist to examine these stones. I have been told that
"experts" have looked at the stones and that they cannot identify. However the
only expert mentioned is a jeweler at Silver Lake Mall. They further indicate
that the only test left is a destructive "acid" test and they are not prepared
to that.
The Gemologist I have talked to on this issue indicate that this is simply not
true. A Gemologist with a proper lab can identify these stones and they have
never heard of a acid test. For example, a graduate Gemologist with 25 years
of experience commented:
"What is an acid test? Gemological tests do not harm the gems. I've never
heard of an acid test"
I would appreciate if you would encourage the leadership at Gateway Fellowship
to get these Gemstones identified by people with the proper qualifications.
  —Sent to extremeprophetic.com
I just bought a 100 ct zircon on Ebay. It is coming from China so it may take awhile. Price outside of shipping $10.
If you watch the third video thay actually name the angel as "Emma". Emma is always associated with prosperity and jewels are symbols of prosperity! Symbols? I would say a 50 ct daimonds is more than just a symbol.

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