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Author Topic:   Revealing the Truth to People (false signs and wonders)
ramoss
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Message 7 of 25 (355897)
10-11-2006 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
10-11-2006 7:58 AM


It seems to me there are two types of 'false signs'. One is the false sign that is deception. The other is the false sign that is self-deception. Those people who decieve others are doing it on purpose, and it wouldn't bother them in the slightest that someone calls them on it, since they are into it to for self gain. As long as there are new marks to send money, they'll keep on using the same sales pitch.
Then there are the self-deceived. These people are actual seekers, but they need some kind of reassurance. They believe odd things because it gives them strength in their faith. Many of these people will resent having their beliefs challenged. They are also those people that are the prey of the ones that deceive others. The ones that deceive others prey on the desire of the ones that need reassurance in their faith. The ones that are like that tend to be conservative, distrustful of change, and more comfortable in looking at the past that facing the future.
People will only 'see' the truth about the false signs when they want to. There are people who will be willing to truly examine their beliefs, and many of them will modify their beliefs to some degree. They are all too rare though.

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ramoss
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Message 20 of 25 (356143)
10-12-2006 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by riVeRraT
10-12-2006 9:32 AM


Re: Change churches
Your pastor sounds like an honest fellow, and a good egg. Good for him.
I don't think churches need to teach about science per say. However, it might be good for people to be taught that not every preacher that goes around passing a collection plate for the poor is actually a 'brother in Christ', and might be using people's faith for personal gain. Look at Jim Baker, Dr. Gene Scott (now deceased), and a variety of other televangalists? Many are very wealthy men , at the expense of the people who donate money for charitable works. So much of that goes to the personal weath of the televangalist, rather than the good works that were promised it would go to. This is particulary true of those frauds that use faith healing, since relying on that can be a matter of life and death.

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