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Author Topic:   Where did God come from?
world
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Message 47 of 178 (73972)
12-18-2003 12:43 AM


Morality
Why does morality prove God?
It is pretty interesting how most of our morals seem to be inexorably linked up with reproduction...
pornography
prostitution
rape
abortion
homosexuality
adultry
Why are these such a big deal to God?
I think it is easier to explain why such morals would be important to an organism that relies on a protective group for survival. The evolution of the deep psychological mechnisms triggering reactions to sex, food, and danger and also those more recent primate and human mechanisms relating to perception of groups, reciprocity, and fairness seem like they would produce a situation pretty much like we have now with just a few major human adaptations and inventions.
Add the capacity for language and speech and you have religion.
Add writing and you have monotheism.
Add the internet and...

  
world
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Message 54 of 178 (74132)
12-18-2003 2:26 PM


current morality is:
Memes + underlying psychological architecture. Lets not forget that those memes have to sustain themselves on a medium! And let's also not forget that no matter what the dominant memes dictate, humans will navigate these memetic landscapes with an personal agenda that stems from and evolved brain.
Memes + behavioral ecology = morals.

  
world
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Message 57 of 178 (74239)
12-19-2003 11:25 AM


The urge to believe
Imagine the Pleistocene.
Imagine small groups of intelligent, talking, tool using primates living in small bands.
The social structure of such groups would have been complex and likely involved pretty intense interactions. In modern pastoralist and hunter-gatherer societies life is not easy, and there no reason to think that it would have been in the past. There was likely starvation, disease, and, of course competition with other bands of hominids.
Individuals in these groups likely gained by conforming to group ideology (hairstyles, dancing, food processing, and, of course, interpretation of reality [religion]) both by gaining individual support and reinforcing group allegiances. It would not suprise me at all if this dynamic has been inplace long enough for natural selection to have favored hominids who had some kind of desire for learning a group's interpretation of reality.
The desire to adhere to group philosophy is not restricted to the so-called monotheistic religions. Lots of different religions tap into this same innate human tendency.
It is just survival in groups, thats all.

  
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