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Message 82 of 147 (446878)
01-07-2008 12:28 PM

Reply to: Message 76 by TheDarin
01-07-2008 9:41 AM

Re: The Belief Stops Here

TheDarin

EVO's are telling students deliberate lies about science and scientists. They are being taught a strawman version of ID, so that ID can be ridiculed.

You claim much and evidence nothing. What lies are being told about science and which scientists? What is the strawman version being taught and could you give us the real Intelligent Design hypothesis?
Instead of whining about things present your case so that we know the issues you wish to discuss. We are not mind readers,TD, so either put up or shut up.

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Message 97 of 147 (446914)
01-07-2008 2:52 PM

Reply to: Message 94 by TheDarin
01-07-2008 2:35 PM

Re: Towards the topic

TheDarin

I hope you see that my issue is with those EVOs that deny ID - you are blind. I'm not asking you to buy the Jesus thing, well, I would ask you to...but that's another thread...I am troubled by those that see more ID in a paper napkin than DNA.

I doubt you can even state what the Intelligent Design hypothesis is can you?

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Message 100 of 147 (446920)
01-07-2008 3:10 PM

Reply to: Message 99 by Cold Foreign Object
01-07-2008 3:05 PM

Atheism vs. the Bible? I don't think so

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Rahvin: we already know Atheists believe their enemy - the Bible - is a work of fiction, what is the point?

Sorry to bust your bubble ray but ,as an atheist, I can categorically state that I can not consider the bible an enemy since it has no ammunition.

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Message 122 of 147 (446993)
01-07-2008 5:52 PM

Reply to: Message 94 by TheDarin
01-07-2008 2:35 PM

Re: Towards the topic

TheDarin

Why is it that the EVO charts in the textbooks indicate an ape evolving into a man. One path. Not one into two?

Please present the title and authors of the book you are claiming show this if you can.

And High hopes for what? You can see clearly that I am not denying that evolution happens. You must have had high hopes that I would go atheist on you.

Well you can hardly make such a declaration without understanding what evolution is.

I cling to the watchmaker argument - and as far as God being the ultimate boeing 747 - the argument is null, because we have not been given the means to process the thought of something from nothing...so while god is the ultimate Boeing 747, where God came from is not even within my ability to compute...or yours.

The watchmaker argument is not even wrong.

But I can show you example after example after example of design and creation, and you cannot show me one mutation that results in something remotely resembling the look and intelligence of the human brain. It's convenient of those who have deceived you that it takes a million or so years to run a test on their theory.

You are bold to make claims on something you do not understand and even bolder to make claims of evidence you possess for your stance that you have yet to present.

I hope you see that my issue is with those EVOs that deny ID - you are blind.

You are fond off saying such things. Please tell us what you think Intelligent Design is and what makes you think that you have a better argument in support than those that before you have tried?

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Message 136 of 147 (447114)
01-08-2008 3:48 AM

Reply to: Message 135 by molbiogirl
01-08-2008 2:24 AM

Re: The Paper

molbiogirl

I think he has it scheduled somewhere around the time of the second coming.

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