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Author Topic:   Proof and analysis of Biblical end time accuracey [Synnegi]
jar
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Message 29 of 155 (171215)
12-23-2004 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by umliak
12-23-2004 7:16 PM


I'm sorry but...
as a Christian I gotta call
I went to the site you mentioned and checked out their "Biblical Science" references. Not one single item they mentioned was correct and most of them were either simply silly or not pertinent. There certainly was no proof of any scientific knowledge from the Bible and in fact, some pretty major misrepresentations.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 84 of 155 (172080)
12-29-2004 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by mike the wiz
12-29-2004 8:56 AM


Blowing Smoke Mike.
1st. Corintians 14 says nothing of the sort.
Paul is very clear there that speaking in tongues is worthless and pointless. He acknowledges that it happens and that folk claim that GOD understands. But he is also very clear that it serves no purpose other than self gratification, that is provides no information or value.
It's short so here it is in its entirety, not quote mined.
1: Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
2: For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
3: But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4: He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
5: I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
6: Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
7: And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
8: For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
9: So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
10: There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
11: Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
12: Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
13: Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14: For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15: What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
Paul the Apostle writes:

9: So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.


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jar
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Message 93 of 155 (172199)
12-29-2004 11:36 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by sidelined
12-29-2004 11:19 PM


Re: Tongues
It's also from one of the more sanitized versions of the Bible. In the KJV it reads:
2: For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
And it goes on to place speaking in tongues in perspective.
3: But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4: He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
5: I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
6: Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?

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