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Author Topic:   Re: Substantiating The Validity Of Bible Prophecy
Brian
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Message 12 of 119 (342330)
08-22-2006 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by ramoss
08-22-2006 9:46 AM


A lot of poetic license with 1 Kings 18:43 at that site!
I don't think there is any pastime as worthless as Bible prophecy, it is just ludicrous because anyone can essentially make any event fit something in the Bible. There's also all this crap about symollism, and that many biblical verses don't actually mean what they say.
When the servant went back the 7th time he saw a cloud as small as a man's fist rising out of the sea, hardly a freakin trident missle is it?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 51 of 119 (342741)
08-23-2006 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Buzsaw
08-22-2006 11:02 PM


1. I haven't seen anything more fulfilling (pardon the pun) than the prophecies.
The funny thing is, there hasn't been a single prophecy in the Bible that has actually come to pass, not a single thing.
2. Nobody can essentially make any sense in the prophecies going at it carelessly in a liberal manner without prayer, the Holy Spirit and doing lots of homework comparing scripture with scripture.
Psychologists call this self delusion Buz.
All that happends here is that you search as hard as you can to make some kind of sense out of the prophecy, and any remote possibility appears to make sense.
If I were you I'd be more concerned about the prophecies that haven't come true, especially all those that Jesus said He would fulfill. Not a single word Jesus said has come to pass.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 71 of 119 (342999)
08-24-2006 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Buzsaw
08-23-2006 11:03 PM


Messiah smessiah
Mohammed's religion is against the christ/missiah/son of God aspects of Jesus.
Just as the Christian view of messiah is against that of Judaism.
If Christians can mutilate the concept of the messiah found in Judaism, and claim it is some sort of 'update', then why can't Islam's view of Jesus simply be a further update from God?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 99 of 119 (344643)
08-29-2006 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by ReformedRob
08-28-2006 9:18 PM


Re: Sorry Brian But...
You couldnt be more wrong. In another post you correctly told me that just because I asserted something didnt make it so and to back up what I said...your turn buddy.
You then go on to make a post filled with unsupported claims!!
The command was given by Artexerxes to Nehemiah who was allowed to return to Jerusalem to rebuild it.
Evidence please?
Archeologists found the stone cylinder with the command on it.
Which archaeologists, when and where was it found, is it genuine, when is it dated to........
That started the countdown. the sevens are properly translated as years or weeks of years in Hebrew.
Are they, what is your evidence for this?
Exactly 69 weeks of years later...to the day...Palm Sunday... Jesus was acknowledged as the Messiah in Jerusalem.
More unsupported claims. How do you know Jesus was acknowledged as the Messiah on Palm Sunday.
Also, you do know that Jesus had to be born between 4 to 6 yars earlier than the church father thought?
And then 62 weeks later Jesus was crucified.
Again, unsupported.
Daniel was written 606 BC
Says who? Another unsuported claim.
but even if one late dates it they cannot get it later than the translation of the septuagint in 200 BC
So it cannot be later than 200 bce, which is well after the alleged events?
but it was obviously written before that.
Why is it obvious, you are just making empty claims again.
No one can explain these prophecies...you can only try to late date Daniel only so far but it was written when it claims 606 BC.
We have still to see why you date Daniel to 606 bce.
I throw down the gauntlet Brian show me a prophecy that is supposed to have come true that didnt.
None of them have.
So, over to you, which prophecies do you think have come true and please provide supporting evidence.
To make it easy we can look at one at a time.
Let's start with the claim that Christians say that Jesus was born in Bethlehem thus fulfilling a 'prophecy'.
Cheers.
Brian.

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