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A Theological Defense of "Gap Theory"

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ringo
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12-10-2005 10:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 3 by nwr
12-10-2005 10:33 AM

Re: A thread without a topic
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Can somebody tell us the topic.
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I think Quickdraw McRandman went off half-cocked. We'll have to wait for jaywill to fill in the gaps.
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12-11-2005 11:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 10 by jaywill
12-11-2005 7:21 PM

Well, I nodded off for a bit in the middle of the sermon, so I'll just ask some questions about the end.
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jaywill writes:
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... a lying creature as seen in the serpent, had no place in God’s creation.
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You have failed to show in another thread that the serpent lied. Please show that now. And while you're at it, please show why the serpent has "no place in God's creation".
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God, who had commited to man His image and His dominion, waited for man to command God....
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God waited for man to command God? That sounds a bit... er... unorthodox. Can you give book, chapter and verse, please? Where does the Bible say that man can "command" God?
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... to destroy the ancient pre-Adamic Anointed Cherub, who had become Satan.
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Again, this is going to need some book, chapter and verse to back it up. Seems like a lot to cram into Genesis 1:1.
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12-12-2005 12:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 12 by randman
12-12-2005 12:04 AM

Re: the serpents lie
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The lie is the suggestion that God could not be trusted....
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But the serpent never suggested that. He simply said, "Ye shall not surely die", and they didn't. He told the truth.
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Then he continued, "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil," which was also true.
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There was no false "suggestion", only the truth. Maybe it was a truth that God didn't want them to have, but it was still the truth.
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12-12-2005 12:54 AM 		Reply to: Message 15 by arachnophilia
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Ah, I thought I heard you scampering across your web.
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arachnophilia writes:
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that's a reference to an extremely out of context verse in ezekiel.
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I think I'm having a deja vu experience here:
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... take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus....
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12-12-2005 12:58 AM 		Reply to: Message 16 by arachnophilia
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Re: the serpents lie
arachnophilia writes:
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what randman is saying is that the lie was in the subtlety....
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I would just as soon not read between the lines. My main point here is that jaywill's entire point seems to be between the lines.
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Re: the serpents lie
arachnophilia writes:
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what did the people who wrote this mean by it?
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these are questions that really aren't answered until we engage a little bit of subjectivity and analysis.
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Of course. I have no problem with applying subjectivity and analysis to what's there. But most of the Gap Theory and Adam-created-immortal and serpent=Satan notions seem to be made up out of whole cloth. The "supporting" references are extremely subjective. I have little use for "analysis" whose sole purpose is to bolster somebody's pet interpretation.
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... like to have some worthwhile discussion between the fundamentalist ramblings here.
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No problem. I was just marking time until you got here anyway. I don't like to see them get off scot free.
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08-27-2006 2:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 118 by Jor-el
08-27-2006 11:49 AM

Re: A Theological defense of the Gap Theory
Jor-el writes:
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In my time as a christian I've come across almost every forseeble and many times unforseeble explanation and theory for almost all parts of the bible.
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Maybe you need to broaden your horizons, so you can foresee farther.
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08-27-2006 5:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 122 by Jor-el
08-27-2006 4:51 PM

Re: A Theological defense of the Gap Theory
Relax.
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All I did was take a jab at you for claiming you had "heard it all".
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You haven't.
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