MACROevolution vs MICROevolution - what is it?

Why do you feel it is necessary to point out something that we all agree to, and have always agreed to?There are numerous studies demonstrating that humans have about 100 mutations that their parents don't have, and those are germ line mutations. Those are the numbers I keep referring to.

Mutations do occur, though. They need to be part of your model.

Are humans with brown eyes an altogether different species than humans with blue eyes? It does contradict your scenario where evolution must stop when it runs out of genetic diversity. That is what we are arguing against.

Breeding has very little to do with the long term evolution of wild species.

Why would it matter what species you are talking about? The human species is not currently an "identifiable species"? No, it doesn't. Mutations add genetic diversity.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Yes, they do. Mutations produce new phenotypes which increase genetic diversity. Are you saying that humans are not a species because there are humans with brown eyes and blue eyes? Would one eye color need to replace another before humans can be considered a species?

It doesn't demonstrate what happens over longer time periods due to the emergence and fixation of new mutations. It also requires the emergence of new traits through mutations.

Are pocket mice not a species because black fur emerged through a mutation? Are peppered moths not a species because they also got black coloration through mutation?New skin colors, lactose intolerance, and many other traits have emerged in the human species through mutation. Are humans not a species?Has it ever occurred to you that we don't define a species by the fixation of mutations? You aren't talking about mutations, which increase genetic diversity. Your argument is that evolution will stop because it runs out of genetic diversity. This is contradicted by the emergence of new genetic diversity in the form of mutations. All you can do is ignore the facts.

Right here:"You aren't getting a species if new traits are emerging."--FaithBlack fur in pocket mice was the result of new traits emerging. Therefore, by your own argument, pocket mice are not a species. The same applies to peppered moths. The same applies to humans due to the fact that there are many traits that have emerged through mutation. Mutations don't stop when a new species forms. Mutations add genetic diversity.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

And there you said it again. In pocket mice, you have an increase in genetic diversity with the emergence of black fur. Are you saying that pocket mice are not a species?

If you start with a population of all white mice, then have a population of all black mice, isn't that an equal amount of genetic diversity at the beginning and the end?

Yes, it is the point. You claimed that evolution will run out of genetic diversity. However, we see that there is the same amount of genetic diversity before evolution and after evolution.

It will never run out of genetic diversity because mutations increase genetic diversity after selection has reduced it. I just showed you that this is not the case. They started and finished with the same amount of genetic diversity. I understand it just fine. It just happens to be wrong.

You are moving the goal posts. You are saying that evolution will run out of genetic diversity. Mutations add genetic diversity. That is what you need to address.

We already disproved that claim with the examples of the pocket mice and peppered moth. Both examples involve the emergence of a new trait through mutation.