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Author Topic:   Your reason for accepting evolution
ringo
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Message 7 of 111 (431497)
10-31-2007 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Beretta
10-30-2007 10:54 AM


Beretta writes:
Isn't it just the starting point of "I don't believe in the possibility of a transcendent creator" that then leaves evolution as the most plausible option.
Nope. Even if there is a transcendent creator, the chemistry of DNA makes evolution inevitable.
DNA doesn't replicate perfectly. Every generation is a little different from its predecessors. No mechanism has ever been observed (or even suggested) that would prevent small changes from accumulating into big changes over many generations.
Creator or no creator, evolution has to happen. It's built right into the molecules.

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ringo
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Message 80 of 111 (432508)
11-06-2007 12:40 PM
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11-06-2007 10:54 AM


Beretta writes:
Variation, natural selection works on living organisms but all within limits according to all we ever see in nature.
But those "limits" are fiction. No such barriers have ever been observed. No creationist has ever proposed a mechanism for how such a barrier could work.
As I said in an earlier post, the nature of the DNA molecule makes imperfect reproduction inevitable. You need to show some evidence that DNA changes can only go so far and no farther.

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Message 95 of 111 (432923)
11-09-2007 3:16 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by jsaunders327
11-09-2007 2:34 AM


jsaunders327 writes:
Does that mean that if you understand the laws of physics that you would naturally believe in evolution? I wonder how that argument would hold up in front of Isaac Newton, who discovered many of the laws?
Please don't insult Newton. If he had had access to the information we have today, of course he would have accepted evolution.
This thread is about the reasons for accepting evolution. You should take your "arguments" against it to the appropriate threads.

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