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ringo
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Message 76 of 300 (342036)
08-21-2006 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Faith
08-21-2006 3:54 PM


Re: On Having To Do Something
Faith writes:
A person can't even have a philosophical moment without being harassed and bullied by the Fuzziewuzzies for failure to meet their blinkered standards.
What on odd thing to say. You think you're being "harassed and bullied" into not harassing and bullying other people?
And they prefer to be called "Dervish".

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Faith 
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Message 77 of 300 (342040)
08-21-2006 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by ringo
08-21-2006 4:00 PM


Re: On Having To Do Something
What on odd thing to say. You think you're being "harassed and bullied" into not harassing and bullying other people?
Robin was harassing and bullying the veterans and needed to be stopped?

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NeuroCycle
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Message 78 of 300 (342045)
08-21-2006 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by ringo
08-21-2006 3:53 PM


How do you go about meeting people?
Usually people start conversations with me and usually pertaining with something to do with work/school/interest I like. Then I start talking.
I am outgoing once I know someone.
Everyday situation: Elevator at work, going up the floors, I keep to myself I don't want anyone talking to me and fine it annoying when the "weather" topic comes up.
No such thing as "small" talk. Ever talk to children?
"Nice weather out there, huh?" - that is what I consider small talk. Yes I talk to children. Nothing different about them.
If you don't know what you're missing, how can you know you're not "missing" it?
Not like I haven't talked to a homeless guy before and just chatted it up, I have. I just don't care for it.
I'll give you a dollar - I'm stuffing it into my CD tray as we speak. Make you feel better?
Why do you assume it would make somebody else feel better?
Could go back and ask you that why wouldn't it?
Still missing the point.
Did I ask anybody, "What drove you crazy?" or "Why haven't you had a bath?"
I talked to them the same way I talk to you - although it was easier talking to them because they seemed to appreciate life more.
I get the point. I am not going to talk to them. I am not going to offer them a conversation. I don't want to, if we arn't different then him feeling better if I talk to him doesn't override me not wanting to talk to him.
I will give him money and I don't know any reason why a homeless man wouldn't want money over nothing.
I am not the easiest person to start talking to, not by a long shot, as you have found out

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 79 of 300 (342048)
08-21-2006 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
08-21-2006 4:12 PM


Re: On Having To Do Something
Faith writes:
Robin was harassing and bullying the veterans and needed to be stopped?
No, robin is singing "Poor little petunia in an onion patch".
We got it the first time he started a "Poor Robin" thread and we get it this time.

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NeuroCycle
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Message 80 of 300 (342049)
08-21-2006 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by jar
08-21-2006 3:56 PM


Re: If you want to feel you were criticized then OKAY!
If it was just a pure alternative and not any better then what already took place then the words "missed out" and "too bad" shouldn't have been included.
Could of easily just of said:
"I would of blah blah blah blah, but that is me, either way. Makes not difference"

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 81 of 300 (342050)
08-21-2006 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
08-21-2006 4:12 PM


Re: On Having To Do Something
Faith writes:
Robin was harassing and bullying the veterans and needed to be stopped?
You're missing the "big picture".
Political Correctness is an (overzealous) attempt to prevent people from being bullied or harassed. Your position seems to be that you should be allowed to bully and harass people.

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ringo
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Message 82 of 300 (342056)
08-21-2006 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by NeuroCycle
08-21-2006 4:18 PM


Neurocycle writes:
Yes I talk to children. Nothing different about them.
Do you offer them money?
Could go back and ask you that why wouldn't it?
Where the who corn flakes?
I am not the easiest person to start talking to, not by a long shot, as you have found out
On the contrary. I find it easiest to talk to people who screw up their own thoughts.

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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 83 of 300 (342063)
08-21-2006 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by NeuroCycle
08-21-2006 4:23 PM


Re: If you want to feel you were criticized then OKAY!
If it was just a pure alternative and not any better then what already took place then the words "missed out" and "too bad" shouldn't have been included.
Why?

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NeuroCycle
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Message 84 of 300 (342069)
08-21-2006 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by ringo
08-21-2006 4:32 PM


Do you offer them money?
If you are trying to equat children with the homeless, not going to work.
Where the who corn flakes?
You asked me why would I assume he would want money. I am asking why assume he doesn't?
On the contrary. I find it easiest to talk to people who screw up their own thoughts.
Plain and simple. I don't like talking to homeless people (one example). It makes me happy to not talk to them. I am not interested in a conversation with them any more or less then the guy in the business suit on the elevator or the child playing street hockey in the park.
I have great conversations with the people I know. I take a while to warm up to someone. If I know I am not going to see someone again I don't talk to them, to me it is pointless - for them I don't know.
I won't stop someone from talking to me, but I will not strike up a conversation with a stranger, simple as that.
I don't talk to the homeless so I offer them money to help. You have your way I have mine.
Best course would to ask the homeless person what he wanted really.
Edited by NeuroCycle, : spelling

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NeuroCycle
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Message 85 of 300 (342073)
08-21-2006 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by jar
08-21-2006 4:41 PM


Re: If you want to feel you were criticized then OKAY!
Why?
In the context you used them I took the as being used in a negative way.
And why use "great" when discribing "opportunity" if wasn't any better?

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jar
Member (Idle past 423 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 86 of 300 (342078)
08-21-2006 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by NeuroCycle
08-21-2006 4:50 PM


Re: If you want to feel you were criticized then OKAY!
Great refers to the opportunity. It is not related to other options. They too might have been great, or not so great, or pityful.

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robinrohan
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Message 87 of 300 (342081)
08-21-2006 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by NeuroCycle
08-21-2006 4:50 PM


Re: If you want to feel you were criticized then OKAY!
And why use "great" when discribing "opportunity" if wasn't any better?
You are obviously right about this, Neurocycle. Jar just won't admit it.
Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 88 of 300 (342084)
08-21-2006 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by NeuroCycle
08-21-2006 4:44 PM


NeuroCycle writes:
If you are trying to equat children with the homeless, not going to work.
Why not? You said yourself, "Nothing different about them."
You asked me why would I assume he would want money. I am asking why assume he doesn't?
Same reason I don't assume that you want money from me. Same reason I don't assume that children want money.
I take a while to warm up to someone.
So do I. I don't have to "warm up" to somebody to talk to them.
If I know I am not going to see someone again I don't talk to them....
I live in a small city (200,000). There's no such thing as "knowing" I'll never see somebody again. Chances are, it'll be my cousin's neighbour's hairdresser's brother - and I'll run into him at a wedding or something.
I am not interested in a conversation with them any more or less then the guy in the business suit on the elevator or the child playing street hockey in the park.
Topic: I feel sorry for you.

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NeuroCycle
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Message 89 of 300 (342091)
08-21-2006 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by jar
08-21-2006 4:53 PM


Re: If you want to feel you were criticized then OKAY!
Great refers to the opportunity. It is not related to other options. They too might have been great, or not so great, or pityful.
Again if it isn't any better why even bother with the descriptive? More effecient to leave it out along with your "missed out" and "too bad".

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Heathen
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Posts: 1067
From: Brizzle
Joined: 09-20-2005


Message 90 of 300 (342094)
08-21-2006 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by ringo
08-21-2006 5:03 PM


ringo writes:
I feel sorry for you.
How dare you dehumanise him... you bastard!

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