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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"I dont respond in the context of your Biblical quotations because A: I dont believe they come from God and B: I dont agree with them,period."
--Great, then I think we can move on and leave it at the door that says they are not contredictory or erroneous in the least. "To me,anyone who views a medium as an instrument of demonic activity is a superstitious fool and deserves to be pitied."--Don't argue with me, argue with the bible, but wait, we've already done that and seen the majority of the outcome havent we. "Mediums,like everyone on earth receive their gifts from God...not the God of your Bible,which doesn't exist but from the God which gave birth to life and who may or may not have created the universe per say."--Sounds like the God of the bible, but this God of the bible doesn't like the practices of mediums, and as I explained before, the way they think about their beliefs is expected if the bible is true. "Mediums have a gift."--Technically yes, but who sustains that gift? Sertainly not any entity that agrees with the bible. "If they use it to do good,they are good and if they use it to do harm,they are evil,same as anyone."--Mediums in the bible used their 'gift' to do 'good' but it does not substantiate what they are doing. "If you dont think your God and your Bible agrees with mediums,than dont be one but for the record,there is nothing inerantly ungodly about mediums."--Considering the bible, it is directly ungodly. "Even Kind Solomon,from your Bible,sought the help of a witch at one time."--Yes but you forgot what happend afterword did you not? --Its unfortunate to be unable to get direct comments out of you towards my arguments, I should hope to discuss with you on any implication in such a way so we can come to conclusions and not drift off into other implications when one of them is wrongly attributed. ------------------
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"Why the hell do you think we have to share genes with our food in order to digest it?"
--Our bodies are designed to break up and use different sources of energy to sustain us, we have various specialized enzymes to break down various compounds such as proteins, carbohydrates, etc. At what level is cytochrome C? Is it an acid or a protein, that kind of thing, as I don't know too much about it I must admit. And about the Sunflower, that was what popped into my mind, so I thought I would suggest it, it wasn't that much of a belly laugh. ------------------ [This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 02-06-2002]
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7911 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
id love to seem some good explanations as well.
------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi |
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Sorry, Hovinds sunflower lie is a belly laugh. I don't blame you, it's easy to believe what you read, but I do urge caution when reading Hovind, though. Cytochrome c is a protein, involved in Krebbs cycle, a metabolic process that forms Adenosene Triphosphate from oxygen & sugars. It consists of 103-112 amino acids (this may well have changed, as the source I'm quoting is 10 years+ old), but most vertebrates have 104. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Um, TC, there is no original version of the Bible. There does not exist any first copy of any of it. I believe that it would have been written in Arameic and Greek, anyway, not Hebrew. Hebrew versions don't come till many generations of versions later. Do you know nothing at all of the history of the Bible? Why do you think that the King James version of the Bible is named that? King James did a translation that helped him politically. Martin Luther did the same thing. So did the Catholics. Here is a timeline of when all of this happened with the Bible.
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline/main.html quote: There are contradictory accounts of when Jesus was crucified, depending upon which Gospel you read. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all have him being crucified after passover, while John has him being crucified BEFORE Passover. I quote many passages and link to each of the gospels' versions of the crucifiction in message #127 in the thread "Is the Bible the word of God". It is crystal clear in the scriptures. You did not address this obvious contradiction in your reply. "67.Jesus said that his true followers will routinely perform the following tricks: 1) cast out devils, 2)speak in tongues, 3) take up serpents, 4) drink poisons without harm, and 5) cure the sick by touching them. Mk.16:17-18"--Yup, I have yet to see the drinking poisons without harm and cure the sick by touching them, but the rest is evident it happens. So, you admit that IT IS NOT TRUE that Jesus' followers can drink poison without harm? Doesn't that mean that, in this case, that the Bible is WRONG? All you do in your reply to my list of biblical contradictions is handwave and interpret out the wazoo so you can't be wrong. ...which is fine, of course, but then you can't turn around and say that ANYTHING in the Bible has any "true" meaning, so therefore you cannot assume that any of it reflects what we see in nature. Jesus most certainly did very directly say that he would be back very soon, and that the people who were listening to him right then would see him. You have to twist and change the obvious, straightforward meaning of the scripture to make it mean anything else. What you obviously HAVEN'T done is notice that the farther away in time after Jesus dies that we go in the Bible, the less the apostles mention that Jesus will be coming back within their listeners' lifetimes, and they start talking about some far-distsnt time that he will bring the "Kingdom of Heaven" back to Earth to the faithful. Why don't you try looking at a book that presents all four Gospels at the same time, so you can see how they are quite different from each other in many details, with John being REALLY different from the other three. The following is a good one:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0826705006/ref=pd_sim_books/002-3934984-7943267 The Bible DOES call bats, birds. It actually calles them a "fowl": 11:13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; 11:15 Every raven after his kind; 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. quote: Leviticus 19:19Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7911 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: then why do you have time for sarcasm. if you yell at creationists for not being open then try to be open yourself. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: Sense of humor KP...please look it up...
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7911 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: hehehe sorry its kinda hard to tell unless you say. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi [This message has been edited by KingPenguin, 02-07-2002]
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like god Inactive Member |
It looked like a change was needed in the current direction of this thread. I read some in the beginning and then skipped to the end to see how it would turn out.
If we are made in the image of God, it is probably so we will know how to use our glorified bodies and not to trip on his looks when we meet him in the dimension of heaven. It is scary enough to think that there are creatures with eyes everywhere like in revelation that includes the eyes under their wings, so it will be a comfort to see someone who looks like us. And the Bible says his flock will recognize him. While we are on eyes, my physiology teacher always had issue with the divine plan. It doesn't make a lot of sense to "see" things based on receptors which are pointed backwards and have to distinquish between the stimuli and the receptor next to them as well as the blood vessels, blood, water and gunk floating through the humor in the eye. Oh yea, that is right He said that we are in His image and when Christ comes to make final judgement the blood will separate us from our sins much as we have to look through the blood to read the pages of this forum and forgive those for their trespasses.
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Andya Primanda Inactive Member |
I don't believe that we are made in the image of God. Is God humanlike? I don't think God is Michelangelo's bearded old man.
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rockin_rob Inactive Member |
well, i'm not sure if anyone has brought this up in this thread, but here goes:
" mortals belive that the Gods are born and have human clothing, voice and form "-Xenophanes It rasies an interesting point eh? if we stop and think: a question comes to mind: are we really created in the image of god, or are trying to create god in our own image? This message has been edited by rockin_rob, 01-23-2005 21:45 AM
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rockin_rob Inactive Member |
the flood epic of mesopotamia/ babylon is about a man named atrahasis a king who is warned by Enki of a flood, not gilgamesh, but if memory serves correct, part of " atrahasis" is contained within the epic of gilgamesh.
just so you know... This message has been edited by rockin_rob, 01-23-2005 22:02 AM
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ohnhai Member (Idle past 5190 days) Posts: 649 From: Melbourne, Australia Joined: |
In God’s image.. DNA is god.
This is normally taken (literally) to mean God looks human and made us look like him. This view has caused no end of problems. But when an artist paints an image there is nothing to say that that image has to look like the artist, but you will find that a lot of that artist will end up in that image. So when you think on the term in God’s image it should be realised that the image is not a physical interpretation of what god looks like, but the result of the will of god. Put another way, ‘how God defines us to be’. We have come to understand the importance of DNA to life on this planet and to us as humans. DNA is indeed the driving force of existence and life. DNA is what makes us what we are. It defines us as humans, cats as cats, grass as grass and so on. In a very real sense we are made in the image of our DNA. A gene for red hair, a gene for height, a gene for all physical attributes and many mental ones too. DNA has a definition, design, image of what each of us are, and though each one of us is different we are the same. We are what the DNA makes us. Also as our DNA is the same stuff, simple base pairs in pattered sequences, all DNA sequences are essentially the same thing, just in slightly differing configurations. So if we are made in God’s image and DNA is the painter that defines what we are DNA must be god
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