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redwolf
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Message 36 of 112 (106242)
05-07-2004 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by cloud_strife
04-03-2004 3:48 PM



"Hey guys, just wanted to see what you thought about this. I'm discussing how dinosaurs could not have been alive with Noah in the flood. And he showed me this link. I'm not sure how credible this is, or if any of it is true."
For starters, you have recognizable dinosaur types drawn on canyon walls and in caves and around rivers at numerous North American sites.
Humans and Dinosaurs Together. . .
Then you have the ica stones, consisting of tens of thousands of ornate pieces of pottery and similar artifacts with complex designs clearly showing dinosaurs:


You have descriptions of a number of things (Reem, Ziz bird etc.) which could only be dinosaurs in midrashim (very ancient Jewish literature), see volume I of Louis Ginzberg's "Legends of the Jews".
You've got dinosaur and human tracks together around Glen Rose Texas.
A lot of stuff turns up for that one, do your own google search on 'paluxy' and 'dinosaur' and check it out. The evolutionist claims that all such evidence is fake ring pretty hollow at this point.
I mean, basically, there is a lot of dinosaurs evidence for evolutionists to be in denial about these days.

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redwolf
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Message 37 of 112 (106243)
05-07-2004 9:13 AM
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05-07-2004 3:44 AM


Re: Blood Cells?

"AIG was, at best, extremely misleading in what you referenced. Myself I would call it lying."
De Nile:

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redwolf
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Message 40 of 112 (106272)
05-07-2004 11:44 AM
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05-07-2004 11:22 AM



"The problem with stylized images on pottery is that the interpretation of those images is subjective. What looks to you like a dinosaur on one of those images looks more like a lizard to me...
If this looks like a lizard to you, I would recommend you have your perscription for eyeglasses redone:

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redwolf
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Message 46 of 112 (106329)
05-07-2004 2:23 PM
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05-07-2004 12:03 PM


>Those would have been some big snakes.
The two on the bottom ARE snakes. The one on the top is a stegosaur.
Other than that, a horned toad does not have a "great spiked tail" with which it can tip canoes over...

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redwolf
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Message 48 of 112 (106354)
05-07-2004 4:05 PM
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05-07-2004 2:31 PM


My guess as to why you don't have much in the way of human and dinosaur fossils together, and there seems to be more than one reason, would be as follows.
Humans have always lived near water for the most part; elaine Morgan in fact makes a fairly compelling case that we were originally aquatic.
That says that most of the places which humans inhabited prior to the flood are now beneath the waves. There was simply never as much water on the Earth before the flood as there is now. If there had been, then given the hotter climate of the hipsothermal, we'd have probably all drowned as you might note in the latest piece of leftwing outlaw-the-internal-combustion-engine garbage coming out of Hollywood.

Finding Cities in all the Wrong Places

Given standard theories wrt the history of our solar system and our
own planet, nobody should be finding cities and villages on Mars, 2100 feet
beneath the waves off Cuba, or buried under two miles of Antarctic ice.
Those interested in the city off Cuba should do google searches on the three words 'cuba', 'city', and
'Zelitsky' from time to time.
That says that we are, for the most part, now living in areas which would have been viewed as plateaus and sparsely if at all populated prior to the flood. That also says that you should not expect to find a whole lot of anything in the way of antediluvian (human) fossils lying around.
Moreover, it seems likely to me that, while there were leftover dinosaurs kicking around four or five thousand years ago, humans probably did not live in the main age of dinosaurs on this planet. In particular, I cannot picture humans living around raptors without modern weaponry. Midrashim in particular describes a number of animals such as the reem in precisely the way you'd expect leftover dinosaurs to be described i.e. as curiosities at a time just prior to and shortly after the flood.
I would GUESS that the main age of dinosaurs was somewhere backwards from 10K to a few tens of thousands of years back, but not 65 million.
In the case of Mishipishu, the water panther, we have an animal which has no adaptation for an aquatic life at all, nonetheless, after the change in gravity which killed off all the remaining dinosaurs and larger pleistocene megafauna, the stegosaur, or those of him left, tried to adapt by moving into the water. It obviously did not work out too well for him or he'd still be there in the Mississippi river.
The thread on the topic of dinosaurs and gravity is at:
http://EvC Forum: Dinosaurs and the reduced felt effect of gravity -->EvC Forum: Dinosaurs and the reduced felt effect of gravity

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redwolf
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Message 50 of 112 (106408)
05-07-2004 6:14 PM
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05-07-2004 5:14 PM


>And virtually all carnivorous dinosaurs were excellent swimmers...
How do you know that?

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redwolf
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Message 65 of 112 (109674)
05-21-2004 12:19 PM
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05-16-2004 2:17 PM


Good picture.

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