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Author Topic:   Where does it say in the bible that the Universe is only 6,000 years old?
johnfolton 
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Message 38 of 114 (108725)
05-16-2004 11:57 PM


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Message 39 of 114 (108726)
05-17-2004 12:00 AM


The meek shall inherit the earth (A New Heaven and a New Earth)
I don't see anything to suggest the earth/universe was created only 6,000 years ago. It however is interesting that the bible suggest the earth and the heavens had a beginning, in this we at least agree, that the universe, & the earth had a beginning (kjv genesis 1:1), as with all the stars in the heavens, though they all became visible when God placed the earth/sun in a proper orbital planes so they would be placed in the firmament of the sky (kjv genesis 1:16), and it was good, (kjv genesis 1:17)
P.S. What's awesome is that God is going to make our earth and the heavens new, (this time not a world flood but by fire) its kinda interesting cause, the Word mentions that the earth's elements will be toasted and there will be no more sea (kjv revelation 21:1) heaven and earth will passed away (kjv Mark 13:31), a new heaven and a new
earth, kjv 2 peter 3:13) cause the earth is going to be judged with fire (kjv 2 peter 3:7) judgment day, its kinda awesome, though that cause of God's covenant with Noah, that seedtime and harvest will continue while the earth remaineth, etc... (kjv genesis 8:22)
It is kinda interesting that Peter says in kjv 2 peter 3:7-8 but the heavens and the earth, which are now, are reserved unto fire against the day of judgement, etc... He talks how people are willingly are ignorant of (kjv 2 peter 3:5-6), that by the Word of God the heavens of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the waters where the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
Its kinda interesting that Peter mentions by the Word of God, and that Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away, but his words would never pass away, and Peter tells us to look for a new heaven and a new earth (kjv 2 peter 3:13), its all about being an overcomer (kjv revelation 21:7) and the Word says: And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. (kjv revelations 21:5) It is quite interesting that it says the meek shall inherit the earth (kjv Matthew 5:5) and that Jesus said: come unto me all that are heavy laden for I'm meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light (kjv matthew 11:28-30.
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Message 44 of 114 (108784)
05-17-2004 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Sylas
05-17-2004 7:32 AM


Re: The events of the fourth day in Genesis.
I think we all agree the sun/stars were shining before day 4, though they were not likely visible because of the mist that covered the earth kjv genesis 2:6 before man was yet upon the earth. So it would appear that the sun went nucleur on God's Creation day 1 when he said let their be light, and we all know that plants need sunlight, but didn't need to see, but the animals would need for the atmosphere to be clear, to see, so God moved the heavens and the earth literally to position their spacial relationships in respect to the zodiac, seasons, years, months, and 24 hour days on Creation day 4. Too me this means that Day 4 took a thousand years, etc... When man was created we then have approximately 6,000 years expired since Adams birth, and Adam died less than a thousand years so he died within Gods Day of rest within the creation week day 7. With all this it makes the earth a little older than 12,000 years, but less than 13,000 years since God said let there be light to melt the frozen waters, and to the creation of the atmosphere, the raising up of the earth techtonics so it was lifted out of the waters and in the waters(the waters above and below the firmament), and we all know how God destroyed the earth in the biblical deluge, and how it will again be made new in the jugdment of fire where the elements will be melted with fervent heat, and all things will be made new. Day 4 was important so you could measure time, when God stablished the orbits or the moon, the earth, and thus when Adam was born we have a record of approximaely 6,000 years from his birth, though he died within one of Gods days (kjv genesis 2:17) (kjv genesis 5:5), cause he died less than a thousand years old, and one day to God is as a thousand of our years. With confirmations that one day to God is as a thousand years, it makes the earth since the sun started (kjv genesis 1:3) shining only 12,000 - 13,000 years not 6,000 years ago, and that the earth was void without form before God molded the earth, causing the frozen waters above the face of the waters to melt, when he caused the sun to become a light on Creation day 1, etc...Time became measureable on creation day 4(because God spent a thousand of our years positioning the sun, moon, and the stars in a repetitional orbital planes to give us days, months, seasons, and the zodiac for our knowing the seasons as the earth revolved around the sun), though man wasn't created until God's creation day 6, starting 2,000 years after the beginning of creation day 4. With the clearing of the mist cause of the creation of creatures that needed to see, so the mist was lifted kjv genesis 2:6), and the lights became visible, in the sky on day 4 and it was good, and still is good, etc...
kjv Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
kjv Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
kjv Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
kjv Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
kjv Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

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