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Point #1
Jet: There are no transitional links and intermediate forms in either the fossil record or the modern world. Therefore, there is no actual evidence that evolution has occurred either in the past or the present.
Point #2
***Actually, Marks reply is well taken so my only response is in regard to what actually qualifies as evolution, IMHO. Micro is not debatable, but, as I have stated before, I do not classify it as evolution. I will expound on my reasons for this belief upon request. As for Macro, it is, as yet, unobserved and, IMHO, an unobservable event and therefore macro-evolution is completely untestable, unfalsifiable, and unscientific. Obviously, this is my personal opinion and I eagerly await the scientific data that can show me otherwise. Unless you are able to provide true science, with true scientific results, including all data from A to Z, you won't be able to convince me that it is scientific.***Jet
The following references should answer both points. You wanted scientific data — in the raw — here it is. Please note that these are only a few selected papers out of thousands on this issue. Happy reading.
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Oh, yeah. I forgot. Jet finds my posts "utterly worthless". Sorry Jet, just ignore this.
***OK, open one of those books that you mentioned, check the back of the book for the reference sources of the material provided within, and supply me with that reference material. I will then use that information on my next trip to the library. OK?***[/QUOTE]
I guess this answers your request, no?
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