Evolution is Not Science

i cant disagree with you since you really didnt say anything none of us already knew. actually i dont think you said anything other than numbers are big, but ill agree with it.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

i agree with everything Jet is saying and thats what ive been trying to explain to all of you evolutionists and nonbelievers.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

are critizing jet or his post? i think your just critizing him and trying to discredit him, it wont work.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

evolutionist do the same thing and actually debate plz.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

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Originally posted by quicksink:
Q&A

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This site is interesting- it gives very simple and straight-forward responses to the most common issues raised by YECs.

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http://www-personal.si.umich.edu/~wmwines/WASP/creationist_arguments.html

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providing a link isnt debating. you didnt even address his statements yet. also the site was a bit dated, info from 1983.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

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[This message has been edited by KingPenguin, 03-17-2002]

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Originally posted by quicksink:
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could you at least try to make sense?------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

evolution is an assumption.

If creation 'science' is scientific, please provide testable hypothese, positive evidence, and potential falsifications.So far, this hasn't been done, despite numerous requests.
--yes and evolution has failed to provide a beginning for itself.If it's real science, then it should be easy to find lots of this sort of thing on the major Creationist websites such as AiG and ICR.
--maybe they dont feel like putting up weak theories and wait until they can get a good amount of evidence.Science never makes a claim to absolute truth.
--it does offer a very good explanation but even that explanation is weak at best.Creation 'science' is based upon the Bible, and spends much of it's time attempting to refute another theory instead of developing it's own.
--that is a function of science. we are in search of the truth after all.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

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Originally posted by Joe Meert:
JM: Then your existence is an assumption. After all, you could be a 'bot' and given that you express doubt about the actual observable process that brings humans into the world, we now have every reason to doubt that you are real.

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Cheers

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Joe Meert

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[This message has been edited by Joe Meert, 03-17-2002]

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its very possible but i doubt anyone is going to claim that and then still claim to have rational thought or even sanity.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

I think this is a good point. Creationists have a tough mountain to climb. First, they have to deal with the claim that they are not performing science. Then they have to deal with the claim that religion cannot be taught in school. THEN they have to deal with the evidence.
---the evolutionists dodge the question with more questions and accuse us of the same thing and wont admit that they do the same.

Not at all. The fact that we can't observe long-term evolution doesn't mean that we can't falsify it.
--absolutely correctIf the earth is very young, that would go a long way toward falsifying it, because evolution requires a long time scale.
--not necessarily evolution would just have had less of an impact on life or it occurs much more frequently.And if the fossil record contradicted the predictions made by evolutionary theory, that would also be a falsification.
--fossil records only show that an animal died not that its structure was altered. it only shows stages not links between them.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

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Originally posted by Darwin Storm:
Evolution, like all scientific theories, is falsable. However, there are a great many theories that have such a large body of supporting evidence, that it becomes unlikly (not impossible) to falsify. Evolution, like gravity, is well supported theory. You will see it modified to reflect new observations. The fact that they need to be modified means that the original theories were far from complete, but the fundamental principles are there and well supported.
AS for the old age of earth, you additionly need to discredit theories in geology, phyisics, and astronomy, which all have large bodies of evidence. It is these scientific disciplines that establish an old earth and an old universe.

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i think the bulk of evolution is assumptions and theyre a few number of facts and evidence but not enough to prove it undeniably, at least to the extent of gravity.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

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Originally posted by Mister Pamboli:
Jet - the believer with no beliefs of his or her own, finds the paste function again!

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at least hes one up on quicksink and actually gives more than just a link as evidence. he also cites more than one source.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

if he heard it he heard it. he was just saying that evolutions always have an answer.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi

ill say it again, do those fossils evolve before your eyes? no they dont. they just show that different animals died and looked like one progressed to the next. you can make the assumption that evolution is what occured and thats probably true but there isnt any actual proof of it.------------------
"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi