Applying Science to Past Events

That's not an excuse to ignore it, though. You wouldn't trust a surgeon that said "the heart's too complicated to learn about; I'll just think outside the box instead", would you?

No, the scientific method means we come to conclusions, but they're tentative. They're all predicated by "it's this way to the best of our knowledge, but we might change our minds in the face of future discoveries."We don't know everything about medicine and the human body, for instance. But that doesn't mean we tear down the hospitals; it means we build more schools.

Well, the most obvious reason would be because there's no such thing as God.

It's obvious to the most casual observer who's not afraid to look at the world with open eyes.Don't you think that, if there was no God, millions of children around the world would starve to death while, in the richest nation in the world, the number one health problem was that we ate too much?Don't you think that, if there was no God, religious rivalry and armed conflict would proceed apace with a desparate rush to invent horrible new ways to kill people not just like you? Don't you think that wars would inflame, manipulated by those seeking nothing more than to profit from both sides?Don't you think that, if there was no God, calamity would fall at random, without rhyme or reason or consideration for how good a person you were? Don't you think we would live in a world where cancer would cut short the life of an innocent child, but a rapist serving time for the brutal assaults of women would win the lottery?Don't you think that, if there was no God, wickedness and just plain bad behavior would be rewarded for some and punished for others; that inequity would be the human condition and anything good, anything of merit in this world would be the result of humans working hard against almost impossible odds?Don't you think that, if there was no God, that the entities who live on an insignificant planet on the edge of an average galaxy would feel the need to offset their ignominious position in an outright hostile universe by inventing an imaginary friend with all of the positive traits they knew of and none of the negative; a friend who would make them feel like they were at the meaningful center of the universe, if not the physical?In short, if there was no God, wouldn't the world be exactly like it is now?How can you look at the universe, at the world, and conclude that this is the plan of an all-powerful, benevolent entity? You'd have to be delusional to believe in that kind of God.This message has been edited by crashfrog, 09-23-2004 11:41 PM

Because that's what the evidence suggests. Because that model makes accurate predictions. Because your common sense doesn't count for shit.

Huh?If I prove that A cannot be different than B, then by definition, I have proved that they are the same.That's not assumption; that's proof.

When its obvious that no argument could convince you? Why bother?I only argue with people who make an effort to be reasonable. All you do is repeat yourself and dismiss rebuttals.