Tsunami: Please Explain God's Wrathful Intent

i think if a god of any worth was really pissed, and really wanted to punish us for whatever reason... there'd be no questions about what was happening. if we're talking the god of the bible, this is a god who destroyed all but a boatful of earth's inhabitants in a single day. and tsunamis are all his wrath can muster? clearly religious people are just making stuff up to get converts.hey christians, instead of talking about how pissed god is and how it's the endtimes and whatever to gain converts, how about doing the sort of things jesus would do and find a way to help?This message has been edited by Arachnophilia, 01-08-2005 08:05 AM

directly? no. but there's a lot of talk about endtimes and whatnot, imply heavily god's judgement: http://EvC Forum: Earthquakes And End Time Biblical Prophecy -->EvC Forum: Earthquakes And End Time Biblical Prophecy fear. fear converts more than anything else. see, god's only pissed at you if you don't believe in him. otherwise, you're off the hook. ask yourself honestly. were you converted out of fear? fear of judgement, uncertainty, etc? i'll admit, i was, and most christians i know were. that's good. i was trying to indict the kind who sit around prosletyzing instead of helping. no, but if it were the endtimes, we'd probably notice. precisely.

no, it's fear. fear of punishment, or death. the conviction you speak of is needless guilt, also a form of fear.

i'm sorry, but that's a lame response.i asked people to examine their motivation, and you parroted back standard religious dogma. yeah, conviction: we're right to be afraid of punishment is we deserve it, right? it's still fear.i even explained that this is not something i am unfamiliar with. i'm speaking from personal experience here. i have seen fear and guilt used to control church-goers in every fundamentalist christian church i have been to: i myself have been controlled in this manner.i'm sorry, but "agreeing to disagree" just doesn't cut it. if you don't wanna debate the point, then don't.

i was never what i would term a fundy, though. i never fit in with my fundy churches. but the guilt and fear as a control device was still effective.