Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,909 Year: 4,166/9,624 Month: 1,037/974 Week: 364/286 Day: 7/13 Hour: 0/2


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Hammer found in Cretaceous layer
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 116 of 160 (180371)
01-25-2005 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by roxrkool
01-25-2005 12:47 AM


Why wouldn't it? Explosions in coal mines result in extreme heat production, collapse, and pressure. How is that not a viable explanation for the 'cup' being encased in coal?
Your proposition would require an explosion to melt natural coal which would then harden to look exactly the same. Blow up a chunk of coal and see what happens. (You do it, not me.)

In Jehovah God's Universe, time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. The universe, by and through him, is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

This message is a reply to:
 Message 114 by roxrkool, posted 01-25-2005 12:47 AM roxrkool has not replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 117 of 160 (180373)
01-25-2005 1:17 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by edge
01-24-2005 10:25 PM


Re: Mine Trixters
The thing is, we don't know that it looked like normal coal. I have heard many things from laymen only to be disapppointed by the reality. A trained and experienced person should be able to tell the difference, but as yet, I do not see anything that would lead me to believe this instance of a buried artifact. The picture is less than convincing. Where is the mold that the affidavit mentions?
I agree that that picture doesn't cut it. I saw it on TV once quite a while ago and it looked pretty good. I'm going to continue watching for more stuff on it. I do like the fossilized finger and hammer which he has. I don't see how he could come up with a number of good fake things. It would seem that quantity lends a measure of credence to each.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 113 by edge, posted 01-24-2005 10:25 PM edge has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 118 by PaulK, posted 01-25-2005 3:48 AM Buzsaw has replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 123 of 160 (181975)
01-31-2005 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by PaulK
01-25-2005 3:48 AM


Re: Mine Trixters
If the hammer was lost in the 19th Century and trapped in a concretion between then and the time it was found then it isn't a fake. But it isn't evidence of creation either.
How many 19th century documented concreted things do we find that look as old as this formation for comparison?

In Jehovah God's Universe; time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. The universe, by and through him, is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

This message is a reply to:
 Message 118 by PaulK, posted 01-25-2005 3:48 AM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 124 by PaulK, posted 01-31-2005 2:43 AM Buzsaw has replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 125 of 160 (182423)
02-01-2005 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by PaulK
01-31-2005 2:43 AM


Re: Mine Trixters
Well the hammer looks like a 19th Century hammer. The condition would be surprisingly good for something even thousands of year old (wood usually rots except in unusual conditions) and the supposed carbon date is consistent with a 19th century origin. So really it's worth asking what evidence is there that it is anything older ?
1. I suppose there's not a lot of ways to design a hammer.
2. Thanks for the links. I don't know where the hammer was found, so far as location dating goes, but it appears that it will depend a lot on dating data and I don't know how much of that's been done.

In Jehovah God's Universe; time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. The universe, by and through him, is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

This message is a reply to:
 Message 124 by PaulK, posted 01-31-2005 2:43 AM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 127 by PaulK, posted 02-02-2005 2:39 AM Buzsaw has replied

  
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 137 of 160 (182968)
02-03-2005 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by PaulK
02-02-2005 2:39 AM


Re: Mine Trixters
As to the other finds, the "finger" certainly isn't a fossil finger.
Has it been proven that it isn't a finger? If so, by whom?

In Jehovah God's Universe; time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. The universe, by and through him, is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

This message is a reply to:
 Message 127 by PaulK, posted 02-02-2005 2:39 AM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 138 by PaulK, posted 02-04-2005 2:42 AM Buzsaw has not replied
 Message 139 by Percy, posted 02-04-2005 11:12 AM Buzsaw has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024