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Author Topic:   Should Sacred Studies be part of a general public school curricula
Brian
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Message 91 of 161 (206413)
05-09-2005 10:00 AM


In the UK Religious Studies is compulsory for 4 years, it is a core subject.
The biggest problem with trying to teach it as a compulsory subject is that many pupils have a very negative conception of what the subject is. For too long Religious Education was seen as nothing more than an extension of Sunday School lessons and that all RE teachers were bible thumpin Christians. Nowadays, since RE has now opened up a little to teach about other faiths, there is some change in attitude. However, if a school is located in a deprived area, the chances are that RE will be a subject that the pupils will not see any value in.
World Faiths are extremely interesting for many adults, but for most 11-16 year olds it isn't their favourite subject.
To illustrate how little the average pupil knows about RE, whenever I tell a class that I am an atheist the usual response is '"how can you be an RE teacher if you are an atheist?"
Brian.

  
Brian
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Message 93 of 161 (206420)
05-09-2005 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by EZscience
05-09-2005 10:08 AM


Hi EZ,
This is a very good point:
The problem is to distinquish between those 'teaching *about* religion' and those trying to instill the values and moralities of their particular religion
In Scotland we teach ABOUT world religions, normally 5 different faiths. Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam and Buddhism. When you are on teaching training it is emphasised that there is to be no conversional teaching. If you are caught promoting one faith as being more reliable or 'truthful' than another, you will be warned about it, and, if it continues, you will be out of a job.
It is a good point because if the educators don't respect all faiths then how do we expect the pupils to respect them?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 100 of 161 (206469)
05-09-2005 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Rosie Cotton
05-09-2005 11:55 AM


Atheists are more tolerable than any other group!
Hi Rosie,
This is a somewhat strange statement:
If some atheist gets offended that religion is being taught, tell them "c'est la vive."
It isnt atheists who are upset at religions being taught, we are all for studying the world's religions. The peole who get upset are normally various different flavours of Christians,. They get upset because they want only Christianity taught in schools.
The only pupils that I have ever seen withdrawn from religious studies are two children who are Jehovah's Witnesses. I have heard of other Christians asking the school to excuse their children from Religious Studies, but in my direct experience no athiest parent has asked for their child to be withdrawn from RME.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 110 of 161 (206654)
05-10-2005 2:16 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Rosie Cotton
05-09-2005 8:54 PM


Re: Atheists are more tolerable than any other group!
And what is your experience of teaching religious education?

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Brian
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Message 115 of 161 (206712)
05-10-2005 9:09 AM
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05-10-2005 8:59 AM


Re: Atheists are more tolerable than any other group!
Hi,
Well these things you highlight are nothing to do with teaching religious education, which was what I was on about.
So you dont have any direct exprience of atheists complaining about religious education being taught in schools?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 116 of 161 (206717)
05-10-2005 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by CK
05-10-2005 9:07 AM


Retraining?
Hey Charles,
Have you ever considered retraining as an RME teacher, I think you would be an excellent recruit!

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Brian
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Message 119 of 161 (206750)
05-10-2005 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by Rosie Cotton
05-10-2005 10:22 AM


Re: Atheists are more tolerable than any other group!
Confiscate it.
Why?

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