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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: quote: Um, maybe it reduces agression precisely because it feels good???
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nos482 Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by nos482: [B][QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator: We weren't talking about me. [/B][/QUOTE] Maybe you should have had a look at the end of that post with heretic sects. It had a at the end.[/B][/QUOTE] Oh, I noticed the smiley-face. I am just not willing to be disarmed or distracted by it at the moment. [/B][/QUOTE] You are taking it way too seriously.
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nos482 Inactive Member |
I don't know for sure, but I have never come accross any research that demonstrates any animal having sex for purely pleasurable motives. Even the bonobo monkies are have sex to reduce group aggression not because it just feels good.
Bonobos aren't monkeys. They are primates like us.
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Well..... if you side with me you aren't being usurped, you're just sexy. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Pretty much how it works with me... I think Red has fallen under the spell of thinking that non-human animals are somehow fundamentally different than human animals. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: LOL....!!! The term 'primate' includes great apes, lesser apes, old-world monkeys, new-world monkeys, lorises, and lemurs. There were also little mouse-like primates contempory with the dinosaurs, and many extinct critters between then and now. The distinction you want is "Bonobos aren't monkeys, they are apes-- great apes no less." ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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nos482 Inactive Member |
quote: That is what I had said, like us. And out of all of the chimps they are the closestly related to us as well. Monkeys have long tails. Don't think that you have to make it your duty to be contrary to me. [This message has been edited by nos482, 11-02-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nos482:
[B] quote: No it isn't. What you said is that bonobos aren't monkeys, they are primates. This is equivalent to saying that that cars aren't trucks, they are vehicles. Bonobos are primates, but so are monkeys. You could just as easily switch the terms and have it make as much sense. "Monkey's aren't bonobos, they are primates."
quote: Absolutely.
quote: Right. Except for the ones with short tails, like Japanese Macaques.
quote: It must suck to feel persecuted all the time. It must also suck to have such a minimal reguard for accuracy as you apparently do. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Bonk, bonk, bonk.....
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John Inactive Member |
quote: That's mature. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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nos482 Inactive Member |
quote: As mature as you are.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
[QUOTE]The only problem with that is we don't know exactly when the perfect time is.. Therefore we "do it" as often as possible to increase the chances of getting "it done" properly.. Plus.. practice makes perfect
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My response to this is the question, "Why have humans lost the ability to know when the female is fertile?"
Most other mammals have a "heat" in which it is the only time females are receptive to male sexual advances. Males are often not interested in females unless they smell and act "fertile" or in heat. I think that the reason we have lost this is because the social bonding that goes on was so important to overall survival that the benefits gained outweighed the risks to survival that frequent sexual contact would pose.
quote: Are you sure? Are you sure it's as simple as this? True, many male higher primates mate with multiple females, and it is in the male's individual evolutionary intrest to pass on his genes as often as possible. It is also the female's interest to keep the male around any way she can to help protect the offspring. On the other hand, since human babies are so helpless for so long, the protection of the male would be needed to enable those offspring/genes to survive. The males that were more likely to stay attached to the female/s would therefore be around to help protect and nurture his own offspring. I am thinking that this male "investment" in his own offspring is the root of the preoccupation many cultures have with the paternity of children, and the commonplace rejection of children raised by men who later find out that they are not the "real" father.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Look, all I am gently telling you is that you are a loose cannon rather frequently, and you frequently debate just as poorly as the Creationists you deplore. I and others have offered advice about how you could be taken more seriously, but you either make excuses, blame others, or ignore the comments. You can choose to take honest critique and learn and grow, or you can continue to do damage to the cause. It's your choice.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Hey John, Ignore the childish behavior. Hey Nos, Grow the &*#% up. You are the only one who thinks your "bonk" comments are funny. Allison
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