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Author Topic:   Oh those clever evolutionists: Question-begging abiogenesis
Thor
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Message 141 of 301 (249020)
10-05-2005 6:29 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Faith
10-05-2005 1:05 AM


Re: My answer once again
Ok, I guess I'll throw in my $0.02.
Actually I haven't claimed anything EXCEPT that the "astronomical improbability of abiogenesis" leaves us with the only reasonable alternative explanation for the indisputable fact that "life is here." A Designer.
This is an assertion that really doesn't sit well with me. Even you are using the word "improbable" rather than "impossible", and there is a significant difference between the two which I'm sure you would agree with.
Yes, there is an "astronomical improbability of abiogenesis". For a start I'll pick a number out of the air, say the chances of abiogenesis occurring is one in a million. That means it could still take place many thousands of times in this galaxy alone. One in a billion perhaps? Still could happen hundreds of times in this galaxy. So with there being countless billions of galaxies, The playing field gets a lot bigger. It's possible that our little blue planet is the only place in the universe where life exists or ever existed, which is one little planet out of ... well, a lot. You really need to step outside this little world and consider just how outrageously big the universe is. Astronomical improbability becomes much less of an issue when there is an astronomical number of possibilities (ie. stars with oribiting planets).
If I buy a lottery ticket tomorrow (yes, the good old lottery analogy) the chances of me winning it are next to (but not quite) nothing. This does not by default lend support to the idea that in the entire lottery, in the history of all lotteries that have ever been run, nobody ever has or will ever win. Similarly, the improbability of abiogenesis does NOT automatically lend support to the idea of design/creation. All it does, and all it can ever do, is point out that abiogenesis is very improbable. So what, we are still here. The way I see it the improbability issue doesn't prevent that, it just means it's a very rare thing, and I don't expect many evos would claim that it is a common thing.

On the 7th day, God was arrested.

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