Scientific errors in the Bible

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Originally posted by Percipient:
Cynicism? I think derision is more like it.

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According to the forum rules: Respect for others is the rule here. Argue the position, not the person. The Britannica says, "Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach."

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You're professing ignorance of common knowledge. I answered your math question because the basic equation underlying orbital motion is not common knowledge, but I'm wondering why you feel the need to go on and on trying to force someone into answering questions about things you already know. If you're trying to make some point why don't you just go ahead and make it?

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Let me once again repeat, I am not aware of any evidence of the falsity of the geocentric view found in the Bible.I hope you do not mind my use of your format. The table adds a variety which makes the reply a lot easier to follow than the monotony of three quotes in a row.

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Originally posted by Percipient:
I was talking about the earth/moon system, but the earth/sun system also orbits a common point. The sun is so much more massive than the earth, more than a million times, that that point is probably well within the sun's surface.

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But the planetary orbits are said to be eliptical. This does not fit with your statement that "the earth/sun system also orbits a common point." Can you provide an explanation for the elliptical orbits of the planets?

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Originally posted by Percipient:
Sure, right after you give a straight answer for how you could possibly be ignorant of so much common knowledge,

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I have not claimed such ignorance.

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and right after you address some of the evidence already presented to you.

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You have presented the evidence of orbital mechanics. My question directly adresses that evidence. Please provide an explanation for the eliptical orbits of the planets.

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Originally posted by Coragyps:
Oh please... Kepler and Newton put this in bed about three centuries ago! That's how everything orbits!

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Originally posted by joz
All orbits are eliptical (apart from parabolic and hyperbolic ones at any rate) even circular ones which are just special cases of elliptical orbits where e = 0....

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This is not in agreement with Percipient's formula of orbital mechanics. What causes all orbits to form elipses? What causes an eccentricity greater than zero?

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Originally posted by joz:
It is...

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Try this explanation Object not found!

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Look through all 3 sections and then work through the math yourself...

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The link provides a solution for determining the value of the eccentricity but it does not provide an explanation for the cause of the eccentricity. Can you tell me why the planetary orbits are eliptical?

The evidence you are referring to is found in posts 58 and 81 and was presented by Karl and Coragyps respectively. In niether post did I find supporting arguments for that evidence. In contrast, the evidence of orbital mechanics has been presented with at least a minimal amount of supporting argumentation. I have not ignored the posts you and John have made regarding this evidence, nor have I ignored the other evidences mentioned. I recognized that the other evidences would be addressed through a discussion of orbital mechanics, and therefore, I have set them aside until such a time as they can be so addressed along supporting argumentation.With this explanation, I would like to continue our discussion on orbital mechanics. Could you please provide an explanation for the elliptical orbits of the planets?

What is the probability that one will develop an eliptical model of the solar system through attributing to the earth an effective gravity equivalent to a central position within a finite, bounded universe?

What is the probability that this eliptical model developed through attributing to the earth an effective gravity equivalent to a central position within a finite, bounded universe will attribute to the other planets eliptical orbits around the sun of the same eccentricity as we currently observe in their orbits?