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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I waste a lot of time here, obviously.
I have recently taken up the hobby of knitting, which I am not sure could be considered a waste of time as I actually do produce useful things like hats, scarves, sweaters, and the like, in the end. I putter in the kitchen for fun, of course, which is also generally productive in that it keeps me and Zhimbo fed. I read a bit, watch TV a bit, listen to music a bit, go to movies and watch them at home. I like to travel when I can afford it. Oh, and PC based RPG games can become obsessive. I also like to encourage the breakdown of the traditional family and snatch all the little children I can lure to me in order to totrure them into renouncing their faith in Christ. Pretty mundane, really. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 11-20-2005 10:38 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: "Drinking" is a hobby? No wonder you think life is meaningless.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
People who drink a lot also tend to spend a lot of their time drunk.
Being drunk (and hung over) all of the time doesn't tend to lead a person to having a great deal of ambition, or to feeling particularly good, in general, about life. This is not an absolute, of course, but it's very easy to use alcohol as a crutch or an escape from one's issues and problems, and thus never deal with them satisfactorally. Believe me, I can tell the difference between my coworkers who drink all the time and those who don't.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I hoist a pint (or more) with my pals maybe once every two weeks; I have hobbies that I pursue less frequently than that. Maybe RR's just really enthusiastic about beers, wines, and liquors.
I would think a professional gormand like yourself would see a kindred spirit in that.
quote: Well, maybe. When someone really loves wines or beers, usually they say "wine tasting" or "beer tasting" as a hobby, not "drinking". "Drinking" as a hobby implies "getting drunk", as in he doesn't particularly care about what he's drinking wrt flavor or quality. But it was a brief message. It's very possible I am misinterpreting it completely.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Speed kills. ...accuracy.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Have you ever gone for several months without drinking at all?
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, when you told us all of your alcohol consumption habits, and I observed that it was not all that surprising that you thought that life had no meaning, then I wasn't very far off the mark, was I?
quote: No. People are, in most cases regarding behavior, what they choose to be.
quote: That's bullshit. People change their habits all the time. Life is full of choices.
quote: Life is full of choices.
quote: Are you an alchoholic?
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
No. People are, in most cases regarding behavior, what they choose to be quote: I don't remember mentioning anything about changing people's "nature". I was talking about changing behavior. We each make many choices throughout every day, most small, but some are of great importance and impact. Anyone can change their behavior if they choose to.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Yes, I agree, especially with regards to the tendency to become addicted to alcohol and other drugs. However, biology is not destiny with regards to behavior. We all choose to follow those "tendencies" or not, every day. We choose.
quote: Of course. But nowhere is it written that you cannot change your flawed behaviors if you want to. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 11-24-2005 09:25 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I'm sure that some do. Most probably don't but some do.
quote: No, probably not. However, he can learn to stay away from alcohol altogether. The choice he makes is to not drink.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Yeah, and you don't come across like a very happy person, either, and neither does robin. You both seem depressed and negative a lot of the time.
quote: I never said he was a sinner. I just observed that his philosophy of "life having no meaning" made more sense to me after he told us of his heavy drinking. Also, he's the one saying that he has no power over his own behavior.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
But nowhere is it written that you cannot change your flawed behaviors if you want to quote: I currently work with at least 10 recovering drug and/or alcohol addicts. I probably know around 20. My father is an alcoholic who quit. My brother in law is an alcoholic who quit. Both of them were using alcohol to "treat" their depression. I am surrounded by many people who decided to change their flawed behavior. They wanted to, or were ordered to by the courts, but I don't know any of them who actually regret deciding to do the work to change their behavior.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: True.
quote: I think that alcoholism is defined a bit broader than that. You can be physically addicted to alcohol, and you can also be emotionally dependent upon it, use it as a way to "self-medicate" one's emotional pain, or as a way to calm insecurity and give a sense of confidence. It is a psychoactive drug that makes you feel euphoria and confidence. If one likes that feeling much more than being in one's own sober skin, so much so that one tries to feel that way as much as one can, then I'd say you have a problem with alcohol as an emotional crutch.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
yes, maybe. But euphoria and confidence is the typical feeling described.
At least, by happy drunks.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Well, you are defining "alcoholic" as only someone with a physical addiction. That is not how it's defined by most psychological or health care agencies. There often is a physical craving for alcohol, but there doesn't have to be. Here's some definitions I found:
link Definition Alcohol dependence is a chronic pattern of alcohol abuse. An alcoholic gets used to the effects of alcohol and requires more alcohol to get the desired effect. This is called tolerance. A person with alcohol dependence may experience an uncontrollable need for alcohol. link A chronic disease characterized by a strong craving for alcohol, a constant or periodic reliance on use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, the inability to limit drinking, physical illness when drinking is stopped, and the need for increasing amounts of alcohol to feel its effects. link A need for repeated doses of alcohol to feel good or to avoid feeling bad. link Alcoholism is a dependency on alcohol characterized by craving (a strong need to drink), loss of control (being unable to stop drinking despite a desire to do so), physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms, and tolerance (increasing difficulty of becoming drunk).
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