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Author Topic:   Another Test for Intelligent Design Proponents
Buzsaw
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Message 5 of 151 (271899)
12-23-2005 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Parasomnium
12-22-2005 7:36 AM


Hi Parsomnium. Is this meant as an addendum to the just closed buz/jar debate? How do we know when we're off topic here? Anyhow, regardless, it's a sensible and interesting approach. I see either of the above emerging either directly or indirectly by intelligent design, depending on the designer's plan and purpose. The smooth mountain/hill might have been pruposefully as such so as to fit the purposes of Mt. Zion at Jerusalem, the temple mount, whereas the other might have been purposely designed so as to prevent Eastern invaders from easy access to the sacred place. Then two the designer might have no specific purpose for either, leaving the eruption or whatever to randomly form, but within the limits of his perameters.
Biblically speaking, I believe it's in Isaiah someplace where it says God touches the mountains and they smoke. In Psalms 104 he made the valleys sink and the mountains rise up, relative to the great flood.
At Armageddon we are told that the Mount of Olives will separate/divide in two via earthquake leaving an East/West valley with a river flowing to the seas. Also the mother of all earthquakes will shake down the whole planet, cities, mountains, islands and all, according to Revelation 16, one of the verses near the end of the chapter.
AbE: removed "the possibility of" from sentence five.
This message has been edited by buzsaw, 12-23-2005 11:04 AM

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 7 of 151 (271990)
12-23-2005 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Wounded King
12-23-2005 2:16 AM


Make that 'For Sure'!
Wounded King writes:
So that's a firm maybe?
Hi Wounded. You make a good point. I've edited out "the possibility of" from sentence five. I guess the reason I said it that way in the first place is that it cannot be imperically proven, but then, that could be said about a whole lot that is stated here as a given. Thanks.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 8 of 151 (271992)
12-23-2005 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by MangyTiger
12-22-2005 8:14 PM


What about......
MangyTiger writes:
Mind you, is there anyone but randman and buzsaw still around?
What about Faith, Phillip, Iano, Proflex and others? We're beginning to emerge upon the scene here, thanks to Admins improvement in PR and making it more compatible to all.
This message has been edited by AdminJar, 12-23-2005 10:45 AM

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Buzsaw
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Message 12 of 151 (272300)
12-23-2005 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Parasomnium
12-23-2005 3:59 PM


Re: ID-ers? Where are you?
Parasomnium writes:
I will not yet comment on your response, other than asking you to have another go at it, this time not thinking in terms of mountains. It's not that I am dismissing your idea of mountains, I'd simply like your input from a different perspective.
Well then, I suppose the left image appears to be less chaotic than the other suggesting that some work had been applied to it in order to make it uniform, whereas the other may suggest randomness.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 35 of 151 (274002)
12-29-2005 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by RAZD
12-29-2005 7:37 PM


RAZD writes:
Strawman argument. ID is not scientific because it does not have a falsification test. That means it is just a hypothesis and nothing more.
Do the singularity of the BB and the alleged randomly mutated biogenetics of alleged evolution have a falsification test?

From "THE MONKEY'S VIEWPOINT: Man descended, the ornery cuss, but he surely did not descend from us!"

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