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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Well, since the bible doesn't particularly condemn rape, and rather assumes it will happen and treats it as a fairly minor crime against property insead of a violation of a human being, all of your efforts to keep people from willingly spread STD's will come to naught. Hey, you've even got the most staunch activist fundamentalist Christian husbands sodomizing their narcoleptic wives. Sicko.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: We could do long-term studies of the people in religious orders which are cleibate; i.e. monks, preiests, and nuns.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Buz, the problem in these "very promiscuous Aftican nations" you keep specifying is not really the promiscuity. The problem with the spread of AIDS and other STD's in these places is due to several factors: 1) There is shameful denial of the scope and gravity of the problem from the highest seats in some of their governments. 2) As such, there is widespread ignorance among the population about the diseases and how they are transmitted. There exists a widespread tragic myth among men in these nations that having sex with a virgin girl will cure AIDS. 3) Strict religious (Christian or Moslem mostly) rules often frown upon the use of condoms, and they are also very difficult to obtain. 4) Oppression of women in these patriarchal and religious cultures make it much more difficult for a woman to refuse a man's sexual advances, let alone inquire about his disease-free status, let alone insist upon a condom, and thus men are infecting women, who in turn infect the babies they give birth to. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 01-22-2006 09:22 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I really, really think you are wrong about that.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Jewish folks under levitical law also had slaves and considered females as property, especially when they were taken as the spoils of war. These are much more "deviant" activities than anal sex.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: The thing is, husbands and wives are not considered to be "soulmates" or anything there. Prostitution is very common in certain districts in Tokyo. Let me tell you how fun it was to walk around there with my husband and his friend a little ways ahead of me and watch hooker after hooker proposition them. They thought it was a hoot.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Hey, I'm only repeating what my friend, who has lived in Japan for about 10 years, has told me, and also what his wife, a Japanese woman who has lived in Japan her whole life, has told me.
quote: But it's different there. It is technically illegal, though rarely enforced or prosecuted. After WW2 the Americans forced them to make it illegal. Nobody considers it seedy or unseemly. That is VERY different from the American view of prostitution.
quote: That isn't a soulmate. That's someone who is merely "compatible". Soulmates are people deeply in love, who are the very best of friends, and want to spend most of their free time together and consider themselves very much connected. I just don't get that to be the basis of a typical marriage in Japan. Women tend to have their friends, and men their work, and they don't really have that very close connection, and it isn't expected from marriage the way it is here these days. Things are changing there, though, as the more rigid social structure is changing. At least, that's according to what my friend Yuko has told me.
quote: Like I said, I have discussed this with my Japanese friends and people who have lived in Japan for a long time.
quote: I sure am sorry you feel that way.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: How are you going to instantly stop all rape, buz?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Oh, that's not what I meant at all. Just the opposite, in fact.
quote: No worries!
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Not in many cases: Lev 19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free. Deut 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. So, you see that under biblical rules, men can rape women though sometimes they are killed for doing so, sometimes they actually are compelled to marry their victim.
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