Fundamentalists (of all stripes) at it again (Re: Textbook Wars: Religion in History)

so you think when we say fundimentalists we mean christians?, or that somehow calling another group fundimentalist degrades the word, don't most people who believe things that would place they as fundimentalist consider the name wrong?You just seem to ignore what i write, i wouldn't call them fundimentalists but nationalists and extreemists It is about history textbook rewriting, but its about making something look better because, you don't like what it says about your history, not that something that is irelevent to the context is needed. as i said before if a person is known for finding something, what would be the point of adding religious belief? It is a paranoid theory, or just to be more civil since you do not like this discripter, it is a unsupported theory, do you have any evidence that they are actively trying to purge christianity from text books?, inferance that because its not in there, they must be is not evidence of anything, other than you wanting it to be that wayhave you even read a high school history book in the last 20 years?, they talk about spanish missionaries coming to america to build churchs to convert the native population, the secular writers arn't hiding this from anyone, heck if the context is religious they talk about it, siteing someone who is famous for being an explorer, who happened to be a missionary at one time, but is not famous for it, is not really evidence of secularist writers trying to cut out christianitythe thing is also the hindus and muslems are actively saying they do not want the bad stuff in the history books, if say they cut out the inquision and the witch trials and such things would you agree its a good thing? No they will keep coming up as long as you take them as personal attacks, rather than disagreements

I wasn't saying they were, why do you keep ignoring that i'm saying they arn't fundimentalists?here it is again do you just not want to let it go that i am calling them fundimentalists? or are you just plain putting your head in the sand? As I said before can you give real evidence that any group of historians that are doing this? as I said before, Can you produce any evidence other than inferance of its not there so they must be trying to exclude christianity, and what about the parts where they do talk about christianity i told you about the missionaries in america, my highschool text book talks about them. I guess my hypocrisy is only apperent to you, just like a lot of things, namely because you want it to be so So you know nothing about school for the last 50 years then?, why would theology and religious history be necessary for students to learn about? what would the reformation teach them?, i'm sorry i wouldn't call it one of the most significant events in western history maybe religious history, i could name any number of things that affected the world more than that scizm
I wouldnt' call it fear of teaching christianity, but a balance of time, you know people would have to teach every religion, everyones views, and they have limited time to spend on one topic, people go to school to learn how to learn not just to learn thingsThis message has been edited by ReverendDG, 01-29-2006 10:33 PM

I agree It is important, but from the prepective of schools, theres so much to teach, a religions class on things like that may well be needed. i did learn about it, it effected things, but would you agree that there is a lot of things after that had the same or more of an impact on the world?This message has been edited by ReverendDG, 01-29-2006 11:58 PM

I doubt there would be much quibble over what fundamentalism is, there might be disagreement on whether you can be a secular fundamentalist and you know what the word means rand don't you? its good you say you think this, rather than saying something like this is fact, you infer lack of christianity in some places in text books as being evidence, but the thing is what had changed has been the focus of fact gathering, rather than someones imposing there worldview on anyone

and take for instance, the ku teacher who got beat up for placing religion where it belongs no i think they wouldn't because they have so much to teach in a semester, and what would delving into it deep teach students? by the way are we we talking college level or lower?
because teaching them deeply about it in high school would be pointless, and theres classes on subjects like this in college, so why would schools be sued?
if you mean the theology part then yes, history is not really about theology or religious teachings, unless say "these people believed in one god, this group believed in another" that would be history why teach this?, he wasn't known as a missionary, it would be a sideline in his life, unless you think only the christian part matters, how is it distorted really? because they don't talk about something hes not known for? considering the hindus have a different reason than what you are claiming secluarists have, yes
they want to make thier religion look better than it was, to lose the nasty background, it would be like the christians losing the crusades or burning people at the stake, or muslims trying to claim women have always been able to work or christians for that matter

The thing is is buz, really when you start trying to give equal balance in the texts for all religions, the pryer domininent religion is going to lose priority and control, if all there were was christians in this country you might have something which i'm sorry but this wouldn't be useful to teach students anymore which ones, i doubt most of them you mean we have to have god in everything?, why? why should the christian god be counted? should we not include allah and zeus and thor too?
{abe as percy said whats this have to do with the topic anyway?, lets discuss it but not here}This message has been edited by ReverendDG, 02-01-2006 01:23 AM

How about you find some evidence of your claims, instead of making the claim over again?