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Author Topic:   A proof against ID and Creationism
Wounded King
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Message 178 of 300 (283080)
02-01-2006 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by Menachem
02-01-2006 7:50 AM


Re: Missing links
So the Hebrew account of creation is like the Cliff notes of life on Earth. It doesn't go over every detail but it studies the subtext, explains the motivation and discusses technique?
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 196 of 300 (283323)
02-02-2006 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by Menachem
02-01-2006 5:24 PM


Re: Missing links
Where is your proof that there were females before males? There is no real evidence of this. I am talking about humans.
There is your problem. No scientist is going to explain to you how female humans were created before humans because no credible scientist is going to try and warp the facts to fit a religious hypothesis that humans are a special creation.
If you were prepared to accept explanations which encompassed the evolution of life on earth it is very easy to explain where males/females came from and roughly when they became distinct.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 201 of 300 (283368)
02-02-2006 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by oQ
02-02-2006 7:44 AM


is light energy permanent?
To a degree all energy is permanent but its existence is not always in the same form of energy. In photosynthesis energy from photons in motion can be converted into chemical energy in the bonds of sugar molecules.
Energy and matter are two forms of the same thing and the conservation of energy is a law of physics. While this holds true in classical physics quantum physics has shown that matter/energy can be temporarily created out of 'nothing' for very brief periods of time, as long as it returns to non existence very shortly afterwards.
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WK

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Wounded King
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Message 278 of 300 (304904)
04-18-2006 6:35 AM
Reply to: Message 277 by gregor
04-18-2006 3:35 AM


Re: Evolution as intelligent design
Since the development from fertilized egg to adult individual may be seen as a stepwise modified repetition of the evolution of a particular individual,
Does this refer to something other than Haeckelian recapitulation? That is what it sounds like, Unless that is your 'modified' is there to cover a multitude of sins.
TTFN,
WK

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Message 297 of 300 (334745)
07-24-2006 5:54 AM
Reply to: Message 287 by inkorrekt
07-08-2006 2:05 AM


Re: No creator, but science
The main point that the anti-evolution side continually miss is that the point of most experiments where flies are subjected to hard radiation is to damage genes not to produce beneficial mutations.
Hard radiation can produce deleterious mutations which can be subsequently identified in later generations, Wieschaus and Volhard's seminal screen looked at mutants showing in the F3 progeny of a mutagenised population in order to identify embryonic lethals and genes whose mutation lead to the disruption of normal patterns of cuticle development. I'm not sure if radiation was actually used for this screen, chemical mutagenesis seems more common in the literature.
Given that these experiments are not designed to look for beneficial mutations or to produce new species I do wonder why creationists et, al. continually bring them up as having 'failed' to do so.
TTFN,
WK

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