A proof against ID and Creationism

If you look at any of the many court cases and legislative challenges relating to ID or Classic Creationism, you'll find that a major supporter of teaching TOE and in opposition of teaching Creationism or ID has been the Christian Churches.It's only a small but vocal subset that sees any credibility at all in ID or Classic Creationism.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Come on. That's a really stupid question. Would it make you feel better if the nuke was exploded by a Godless atheist?Extreme and horrendous actions are taken by many people.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Only by pointing out that there is no logic or reason to the question.I'm sorry but it is a really, really stupid question and frankly not worth comment.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

If anyone looks at the design, the best we can find is that the designer was Idiotic or Incompetent. I might be able to support an Incompetent Designer movement or Idiotic Designer Movement.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

as you've been told. Nonsense. Many, if not most Christians not only support the Theory of Evolution, they are the front line in opposition to the teaching of Biblical Creationism or ID. From this link which I've given you before, over 10,000 Christian Clergy say There is no conflict between the TOE and Christianity, however if ID were proven it would then mean that there is no GOD.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Actually, the Hebrew account is contradictory on that point. It also says that male and female were made at the same time, just like all the other animals. Genesis 1:23 It's only later on in the Bible, in a different (but likely earlier) story that the Hebrew God is depicted as a complete fool that is not even smart enough to know what a proper helpmeet is for the Man he made (like he didn't have examples from all the other critters) and tries to pawn off goats and oxen and lions and tigers and bears and ohmys as adequate.edited to fix subtitleThis message has been edited by jar, 02-01-2006 05:34 PM

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

What??????????That doesn't even make as much sense as the usual Creationist Idist tap dancing.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Did you go to the link I provided in that message and read what was presented?I provided you a link to an open letter signed by more than 10,000 US Christian Clergy that accept the TOE as the best possible explanation of how life evolved. In the letter they say... Let me repeat. "To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.'If someoine is trying to get you to reject the TOE, they are trying to keep you in ignorance.I'll try again to explain the second part. For ID is ever proven it will bring the designer into the world of natural beings. The designer will no longer be a GOD, but rather just another of the natural forces.It will also mean an end to science and creativity. If at anytime, some super designer can step in and change the rules, we can no longer rely on any outcome. The world becomes one of chaos and chance, will ID let this happen or will she step in this time and change the outcome?No, there are several things we can know for sure.Young Earth Creationism is simply wrong. It has been falsified. Anyone that still believes in YEC does so through willfull ignorance.If ID is true beyond the very simplest point (the initial creation of the rules for example) then it must stand for Inept Design.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

you never used the early Apple Computers.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

We may not ever know the precise process, but we are getting new evidence rapidly. Here is a link to yet another possible step in the process showing one method where peptides could be built up.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion