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Author Topic:   A proof against ID and Creationism
Brad McFall
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Message 169 of 300 (281980)
01-27-2006 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Percy
01-27-2006 8:14 AM


Re: Intelligent Design Video
I am about 2/3 rds through the first video. It seems to be saying that the form of the strucuture of evolutionary theory is not valid in part because the charms of life (beak vs individual bird) while possibly selected in a whole are not the whole nor the hole in the material (foundation) of life.
Quoting Darwin with "more complex changes" than caused by electricity and heat on the WALL of cell is implicated as a false statment. This proposition in the first video could indeed be true as it may be unknown biophysics than simple biochemsitry that affects the changes BETWEEN cells.
The second video depends on a better "deconstruction" of the word 'system' than I am able to write currently, eventhough I suspect such is indeed a present capability of humans rather than monkeys.
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Brad McFall
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Message 279 of 300 (304907)
04-18-2006 7:01 AM
Reply to: Message 277 by gregor
04-18-2006 3:35 AM


Re: Evolution as intelligent design
Well
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Note that mean fitness is calculated as a mean over the set of individuals, in contrast to the fundamental theorem of biology (Fisher, 1930) where mean fitness is calculated over the set of genes leading to a dubious teorem.
why can't your distribution be derived from some division of genes distributed PER individual. Without THAT it seems that though your idea is well designed it might be more proof against ID than for Creationism etc.
To me the difficulty in doing this comes from having to keep in sync 4 DIFFERENT hierarchies
A)Transfinite GENERATING a finitary list of real number groups
B)Tracks,Nodes,Main Massings, Baselines GENERATING a finite list of baselines
C)Ecosystem Engineered Populations GENERATING an actual list of species
D)Phenomenological Monohierarchies GENERATING a divided place other than Boltzman listing differences of macrothermodynamics and hierarchical thermodynamics
If all four hierarchies were logically related(other than independently listed as I did), it seems to me that your notion might apply to genes and individuals in the same structure.
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Brad McFall
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Message 282 of 300 (312107)
05-15-2006 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by gregor
04-19-2006 3:14 AM


Random Climbing aFfect
It seems to me that your notion requires one to second guess that cllimbing by Cornithian columns (SJ Gould's idea on the same "individual of Mayr but modified) can not predominate. I doubt that it does (then I would have to be way wrong and Wolfram all right in what he wrote on cellular automata) but it is the "good" scientist in me to wait for that kind of evidence first.

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