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Author Topic:   Humanity's Stuggle With Death.
nwr
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Message 8 of 104 (280739)
01-22-2006 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
01-14-2006 9:44 PM


What is there other than this ultimate reunion of souls?
There is what we see, feel, hear, touch.
Why would life be worth living without eternity?
It is worth living for what we see, hear, feel, touch and otherwise experience.
Are the feelings of total partiality, and love all part of humanity's innate abilities to become one with eachother?
They are partly innate abilities, and partly acquired (learned).
And why are only humans like this? Why do the polar bears not cry?
I'm not convinced it is only humans. I have heard of cases where dogs have mourned.
Our feelings are partly a result of learning, of being part of a cooperative social group. We are an intensely social species.
Why are we special, and who/what made us like this?
We have appointed ourselves special. You could say that it is a matter of ego.

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nwr
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Message 12 of 104 (280782)
01-22-2006 5:23 PM
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01-22-2006 5:03 PM


Re: For ramoss, nwr, and jar. Jar's points encompassed many of yours
Are these wonderful feelings that you have described limited to the life we live on earth? Will they someday not be with us?
The feelings will go on, but a time will come when we will no longer be with them.
This is the root of the problem that I have, Life is so great, but without eternity, it's greatness is only temporary.
Its greatness continues in our children, grandchildren, ...
I have begun to think that the other species were created for us.
That's a mistake. It is that mistake that could destroy the earth, or at least destroy it for our species. And if that happens, the greatness will not continue into future generations.

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Message 61 of 104 (282289)
01-29-2006 11:41 AM
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01-29-2006 11:34 AM


Re: Conclusion
Thomas Aquinas proved God with reason.
Here is a exercise for you.
find the flaw in Aquinas's reasoning

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Message 76 of 104 (283777)
02-03-2006 11:19 PM
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02-03-2006 10:26 PM


Re: regarding our intellect
My take is that our survival advantage comes from our living in societies, working cooperatively to sustain ourselves. Our level of intelligence is mainly a social adaptation, for dealing with the complexities of social cooperation.

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Message 82 of 104 (284025)
02-04-2006 8:29 PM
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02-04-2006 5:05 PM


Re: regarding our intellect
what are the complexities of social cooperation?
They are too complex to describe
I can give some examples. In class you are expected to raise your hand and wait for the teacher to acknowledge, before talking. When driving you are supposed to signal your intention to turn. There are many similar little rules we are supposed to follow.
Then we have to deall with all of the problems, such as you do something nice for a friend, and your friend takes it as an insult.

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