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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think I know what being Christ-like is because I am a Christian.
Now answer this. Is burning someone at the stake Christ-like? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4930 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
No, but my point jar is you say you are a Christian but then claim Christianity is a force for evil. Are you then a force for evil?
How do you know your ideas of Christ-likeness are correct? And if you are asserting that Christ's real teachings are not a force for evil in the world, then shouldn't you qualify your claims that Christianity is the greatest force of evil in the world, and say that false Christianity is? The way you put it, being a Christian means that you are part of a great, evil force, and Jesus is not part of Christianity because Christianity is evil and unChristlike, right? This message has been edited by randman, 02-10-2006 03:13 PM
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, but my point jar is you say you are a Christian but then claim Christianity is a force for evil. Are you then a force for evil? No, I am not Christianity. I am but one Christian, and I am trying to reform the religion.
And if you are asserting that Christ's real teachings are not a force for evil in the world, then shouldn't you qualify your claims that Christianity is the greatest force of evil in the world, and say that false Christianity is? No, not at all. Christiantity is not Christ. It is not false Christianity that is evil, but Christianity as being practiced by many Christians. For example, the current attempt to oppress many Americans as found in the Defence of Marriage Act is an example of Christian Intolerance. The quote from Faith is an example of Christian Intolerance. These beople are not False Christians, I imagine they believe they are the true Christians. That is the problem. Until we, as Christians recognize the bad that Christianity does, we cannot fix it.
The way you put it, being a Christian means that you are part of a great, evil force, and Jesus is not part of Christianity because Christianity is evil and unChristlike, right? Jesus is not part of Christianity. The Map is not the Territory. Religion is a creation of humans. Jesus is the Territory. Christianity is but the Map. Until we, as Christians, recognize those things we do that are not Christ-like, where we are being intolerant and oppressive, we cannot change Christianity. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4930 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
But jar, you yourself admit that true Christianity, which you call Christ-likeness, is not the same as oppression.
So why do you mischaracterize all of Christianity as one thing when in reality, there have been and are different versions of it?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, I do not say that true Christianity is Christ-like. I do not split Christianity into subgroups. There is only Christianity.
What I say is that Christianity should be Christ-like. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ReverendDG Member (Idle past 4141 days) Posts: 1119 From: Topeka,kansas Joined: |
So why do you mischaracterize all of Christianity as one thing when in reality, there have been and are different versions of it? are you saying that you disown all the things that people did in the name of christianity? such as all the things that jar listed?that seems revisionist to me, you should own up to the fact that christianity is one of most intolerent religions and try to move past it and make it better, not keep making it worse by claiming its not real christianity but some false one you are trying to revise history to make your religion look better that way, isn't that false?
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3992 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.5 |
So why do you mischaracterize all of Christianity as one thing when in reality, there have been and are different versions of it? You mean like theories of evolution? Rhetorician, see thyself. "Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more cakes and ale?" -Sir Toby Belch, Twelfth Night Save lives! Click here!Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC! ---------------------------------------
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
For example, Muslims wanted the Jews because they felt usury and thus banking was inappropiate for a Muslim. So yea, they welcomed the Jews, but not as equals. they bank. they just don't charge for loans. how very tolerant of you to state this in this manner.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
The prophet Muhammed went on a Jihad agsint the Jews who disapproved him and killed 600 of them. This continued. Middle east was conquered through blood shed. According the Islamic Law, Sharia, if the muslims build their temple in any city, that city belongs to them. Look what they have done. They have built the mosques in Bethlehem, NAzareth and even Jerusalem and they are now claiming these cities. In the USA, they have built 1400 mosques. It did not stop here. They did this to the Hinduus. The Sharia law cost the lives of nearly 3 million Hindues and muslims. This has extended to Indonesia. REcently, the world is totally blind to the innocent murder of Christians in Sudan. Nearly 300, 000 of them have been murdered. Yes, now you can blame the Christians for the Holy war, Crusades. Of course, those who carried this out did in the name of Christianity and they were not even christians. Hitler is also described as a Christian. If he were a Christian, why would he execute Bon hoefer, a Christian minister who opposed Hitler? Hitler was an atheist and he strongly believed in Evolution ( Aryans were the Superior race). He also hated Christians and Jews. Did you know that while the Muslims and Hindus were killing each other, it was the christians who stood by the Muslims, protected them and helped them with medical aid and food. do you know who is Mother Theresa? Why did she do what she did? Jim Elliott was a missionary who was killed by the Alka Indians. MAny years later, his wife had a burden for these peopel and went and ministered to them. Jesus Christ was illegally charged and convicted when he committed no crime. He died for you and me. He even forgave his enemies. On the other hand,KOran ( Surah 33 and 35) states that all muslims must hate Jews and Christians and even execute them. If a muslim executes anon muslim, he will go to paradise where 76 virgins will be waiting for him. In the worls today, the muslims are carrying out the commands of their prophet by killing Christians. On the other hand, Chrisitans have not killed anyone in the name of religion recently. This message has been edited by AdminJar, 02-13-2006 01:35 PM
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: Lol. Have you read those Surahs yourself? Here is an on-line translation of the Quran. Those Surahs don't say what you say they do. "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Hitler was an atheist. Yuh-huh. "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian."-Adolf Hitler, 10/27/28 Here's a few more for ya. One of my personal favorites: "We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."-Adolf Hitler, 10/24/33 This message has been edited by [Dan's Clever Alias], 02-13-2006 01:28 PM "We had survived to turn on the History Channel And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied: You're what happens when two substances collide And by all accounts you really should have died." -Andrew Bird
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Atheists are bad.
Hitler was bad. Therefore, Hitler was an atheist. Jesus, Dan, do you even try? "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
This is not a topic about Islam, but rather about the barbarity of Christianity.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
While that is the modern interpretation of that phrase, from the text itself, I do not see any reason to consider it meant to be spiritual at all.
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Hitler had 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra' issued to every soldier in the German army. Seems he wore his god on his sleeve....
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