"...except in the case of rape or incest."

Hey Zephyr Welcome to the Threshold of Hell LOL.I would use quote tags, but I cant seem to find any on these things. I'll look for it later.You and Crashfrog are right that the communists where not killing people in the name of atheism. But my point is that atheism is not spotless in it's history. The fact is that atheists where killing mass numbers of people during the 20th century, just as Christians have done so throughout the ages. True, we did it in the name of Christ while the atheists of communism did not do it in the name of atheism, but nevertheless both atheists and Christians have butchered and murdered people in history. Nobody is perfect.I would try to answer the OP, but I'm too busy trading blows with people on this thread that I dont have time to Respond (LOL)I'll try later.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Thank you

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Hold on a sec, crash...I would love to continue the historical/communist/athiest stuff all day, but i'm getting tired. Plus, Ringo and Nosyned said that I should reaspond to the OP, and I promised I would to another poster. I am a man of my word, so here it goes....Should it be allowed for people who voluntarily commit incest to recieve abortions. When it comes to having the child have such medical issues and pain, misery, and mental anguish of a kind that would make the child's life a living Hell, then yes I would allow an abortion. That goes too for a couple who are not inbreds that have the same issue with their child.But if it was just two voluntary inbreds and the child either had minor or major medical issues (though far less severe than what I described above)then I wouldn't allow it. If a normal couple cant get an abortion, neither should an inbred couple, at least unless the medical issues involved are too horrifying to fathom. And in that case an inbred as well as a normal couple should be allowed to have that one preformed.As for rape: No, I dont think that abortion should be allowed there. After all, even with that you can still choose to love the child unconditionally, even though it was concieved in a dispicable way (Koine Greek: "Agape", meaning "unconditional Love")I dont think the unborn child here needs to suffer just for the way he/she was concieved. The rapist on the other hand needs to be hanged by his &*#@ and burned with blow torches for the punishment.BTW: you do have a point on the "Eugenic position" that some anti-abortion activists take on this. Kudos

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I'll by your book if you write it Ringo

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

This debate gfives me an idea for a new thread....

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Hey Shraf? I just did a re-examination of the source that you gave me about how childbirth is 11 times more dangerous than abortions. It seems to be a pro-choice oriented site, as it's mission statement attests. Seems like most pro-life and Pro-choice websites in one aspect: Bias. Course it is hard to come up with an unbiased review of the touchy subject, and it does site sources. But the source for the fact that pregnancy is 11 times more dangerous than abortion source is labeled "lbid". I've seen this in books, and everytime I do see it I get suspicious. What does lbid mean? Are they citing themselves?PLus, if you cite this site for pro-choice, I can also cite a source for pro-life that says the opposite and has numerous statistics like the former.Just being Devil's advocate.BTW: Why did you change your old avatar? The old one seemed better than the new one your using.This message has been edited by LudoRephaim, 03-17-2006 12:19 PM

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

OKay, that is what it means. Could come handy in a super long College paper. Thanks for da info

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4