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Message 5 of 109 (332306)
07-16-2006 7:06 PM

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07-16-2006 6:42 PM

the idea that if God is dead, someone has to take His place, because life without a 'sovereign reality' is unlivable.

People who find life ~~with~~ without a 'sovereign reality' to be unlivable, should consult a psychiatrist in order to have that depression treated.

Edited by nwr, : corrected typo - thanks to Rob in Message 9 for pointing that out.

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Message 11 of 109 (332337)
07-16-2006 8:27 PM

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07-16-2006 7:42 PM

I assume you meant to say without?, ...

Yes, and thanks for the correction. I have edited the original to correct that typo.

I suppose you would be willing to give up your reality with ease?

I don't claim ownership of reality. Rather, I deal with it as I find it.

Perhpas you are unawre how sovereign your own worldview is philosophically.

I'm skeptical of worldview ideas in philosophy, particularly as they are used by fundamentalist theologians. They use it to hide from the fact that their theology is out of touch with reality.

In any case, my own world view is constantly under revision, and has changed greatly over the last 15 years.

A striking figure once said that a rich man had as much chance of entering heaven as a Camel through the eye of a needle.

I'm quite familiar with that text. It seem to pose more of a problem for fundamentalists than it does for me, for a desire for riches has never been a driving force in my life.

I wouldn't worry about my depression nwr, ...

I didn't take your statement to be about yourself, so neither was my response.

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Message 18 of 109 (332374)
07-16-2006 9:55 PM

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07-16-2006 9:15 PM

I don't know anyone who's worldview does not alter on a daily basis... Your skepticism is based itself in a worldview.

I think you have adopted "wordview" as a second God.

Instead of saying "God did it" for everything you don't understand, you now sometimes say "God did it" and sometimes you say "Worldview did it."

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Message 23 of 109 (332395)
07-16-2006 11:25 PM

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07-16-2006 11:15 PM

Our world-view, is our philosophy, is our God!

Then your God is your own invention.

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Message 32 of 109 (332407)
07-17-2006 12:00 AM

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07-16-2006 11:32 PM

That is why the first and second commandments dealt with this issue first.

1. I am the Lord thine God and thou shall have no other God.

2. Thou shall not create God in your own image.

That appears to be your own non-standard translation. Perhaps you are starting a new sect.

Edited by nwr, : No reason given.

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Message 66 of 109 (333174)
07-19-2006 1:02 AM

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07-19-2006 12:49 AM

Is there not a difference between playing God, and obeying God?

Hitler played God. Hitlers enemies obeyed God and killed Hitler.

Could it have been the other way around? Maybe Hitler was obeying God, and his enemies were playing God by killing him.

My point is that, at the time, there were many deeply religious people who thought that way.

Personally, I think it is dangerous whenever somebody is "obeying God and killing." It can so often be self-delusion, and it is a very dangerous self-delusion.

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