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Author Topic:   If God is dead, does mankind become God?
Phat
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Message 78 of 109 (333611)
07-20-2006 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Rob
07-20-2006 1:33 AM


NO WAY!
Rob writes:
If you reject an external God, then you become God...
There is only ONE God....nobody becomes god simply by rejecting Him.
A Creator of all things does not become a figment of an imagination anymore than the known universe becomes a comet!

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Phat
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Message 81 of 109 (333674)
07-20-2006 9:40 AM
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07-20-2006 1:52 AM


If Neitzche is dead, do his words live on?
Ringo writes:
The only God any of us has is our own internal perception of God.
I dunno if I would use the word has. Lets substitute the word universe for God.
If I were to say that the only universe that exists is my own internal perception of the universe, would that be true?
In other words, If reality was only everything I imagined it to be, than when I died, (according to my belief) everything would cease to exist!
Im not sure of my point here, BTW....im just interjecting thoughts into the conversation!

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Phat
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Message 87 of 109 (333694)
07-20-2006 10:17 AM
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07-20-2006 10:14 AM


Re: Perception .. real vs imaginary.
Who IS your favorite philosopher? And why are they your favorite?

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Phat
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Message 89 of 109 (333702)
07-20-2006 10:29 AM
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07-20-2006 1:33 AM


Is reality how we imagine it, or are we part of a greater imagination?
Rob writes:
You've accidently proven my point...
If you reject an external God, then you become God...
Interesting bit that I read in Revelation:
1)
NIV writes:
Rev 1:8-- "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
In other words, (the way I interpret it) God is past, present, and future. Period.
2)
NIV writes:
Rev 17:8-- The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
In other words, (the way I interpret it) the Beast was in the past (as Lucifer, perhaps?) Now is not perhaps because there is only One God? and yet exists in the future only for those whose names are not written in the book of life.
One thing about that book of life puzzles me, though. If ALL are saved by Gods Grace, why are only SOME written in the book?
NIV writes:
Ex 32:33-34--The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.
Oh, Oh! wouldnt that mean that we all would get blotted out of the book, then?
NIV writes:
Rev 3:5-- He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
So what is it that we are supposed to overcome?

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Phat
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Message 104 of 109 (334117)
07-21-2006 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Rob
07-21-2006 9:53 AM


Melodramatic Humility?
Rob writes:
I am not elevated in knowing the truth, but am humbled and will crawl on my belly to plant any seed in your little toe that you may find and see as your own and eventually find God. And when you do, you will see that he found you!
Rob, is it possible to boast by being humble, or are you sincere?
Personally, I think that it is better to not even mention God at all and allow the Spirit in us to draw people rather than us putting on some act of benevolance in the hopes of performin our duties so that we get a pat on the head someday when the Boss says "Well Done, O Good and Faithful Servant"
But then again, what do I know? (I think I know who I know, so its all on Him! )

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