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Author Topic:   If God is dead, does mankind become God?
ramoss
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Message 64 of 109 (332942)
07-18-2006 2:42 PM


The way I see it, it doesn't matter if 'God is dead' or not. Mankind plays god everyday. Every time there is a life/death decision to make, it is playing god. Every time a medicial treatment is researched or is rejected due to 'ethical' concerns, it is playing god.
Since that is the case, what is the difference?

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Message 73 of 109 (333398)
07-19-2006 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Rob
07-19-2006 12:49 AM


Obey God?? Obey GOd??
I see some books that are vaguely written that can be interpreted in many many different ways. If someone comes up with an interpretation of any specific passage, someone can either come up with a different interpretation or a phrase that contradicts it.
WHo is to say WHAT it is to 'obey god'? Many people do, but so many people who also claim what is 'obeying god' will disagree with any specific action.
So, since you can not show any specific action is 'obeying' god or not, what is the difference?

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Message 74 of 109 (333401)
07-19-2006 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by ringo
07-19-2006 11:40 AM


My point (and I suspect that Nietzsche was driving in the same direction) is that we do not need an external God because everything we call "God" is already inside us.
Attributed to Jesus
"The Kingdom of Heaven is within you"

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Message 82 of 109 (333679)
07-20-2006 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Phat
07-20-2006 2:32 AM


Re: NO WAY!
The opposite is also true. 'A Creator of all things' does not become reality just because someone believes in him/her/it.

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Message 83 of 109 (333680)
07-20-2006 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Rob
07-20-2006 9:26 AM


Perception .. real vs imaginary.
The question is..
Is the perception of God real or imaginary?
When you have keys, other people will appearently perceive the same thing. There is disagreement about the perception of God. Anybody can detect the keys..and those keys can be measured by physcial instruments.
Not so with God. God is undetectable by any physical means outside the brain.

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Message 88 of 109 (333697)
07-20-2006 10:22 AM
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07-20-2006 10:09 AM


Re: Perception .. real vs imaginary.
Your quote from the bible does not counter what I said. It is some self-justification by the author of Romans for his belief in god, and he fact that his belief was not the same as others.

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