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Phat
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Message 9 of 93 (358275)
10-23-2006 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by PurpleTeddyBear
10-23-2006 1:30 AM


My two cents (or is it two mites?)
Hi, Purple Teddy Bear---welcome to EvC Forum! These questions that you ask are quite important and many people will give you many opinions on what they all mean. I feel empathy for you and will try and explain how I feel as honestly as possible, but both you and I know that IF God is actually real, the ultimate answer will come to you from God and not from me.
PurpleTeddyBear writes:
What is a relationship with Jesus like?
Phat writes:
Its being able to talk to the air or to the empty room and having a comforting feeling that you are not talking to yourself. Its feeling a growing love inside of you that affirms your worth and your special value to a Creator who is a Father and a friend to us. Its being able to acknowledge the arguments against religion, the Bible, and spirituality without worrying about whether the God you met was a figment of your imagination or whether He was actually someone you met.
How does one know this relationship is real?
Phat writes:
I clearly remember the day that I became aware that God was real. While it is true that I was at a charismatic church at the time, I believe to this day that God reached me despite the church and the dysfunction of organized religion. Your son may well have been involved in a religious environment, and by accepting Jesus he may have been positively reinforced by the peer group around him. Some people believe that God is in everybody and that we need but find Him within us. Others believe that the Spirit of God is with everybody but that we need to ask Him to come in to our hearts.
Is knowing Jesus anything more than a feeling - how so?
Phat writes:
To me it is more than a feeling. It is a conscious belief. Its a relative truth, yet it can never be expressed to the world as an absolute fact. Only God can do that, if and when the time is right.
I've never known Jesus. I'd like to know how to recognize the feelings that clearly demonstrate to you Jesus is real.
Phat writes:
I can share my story with you. I can tell you of the many times that I felt the presence of God. I can also tell you many other times where there was no feeling and no awareness. It was those times that I prayed by Faith.
You may not have any confirming feelings. I believe that you will have an awareness, but I can't promise you that. Many people let their logic get in the way of their belief. They have more faith in human wisdom and rationality than they do in a God that they can't see. At least they are honest!

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Phat
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Message 10 of 93 (358277)
10-23-2006 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by PurpleTeddyBear
10-23-2006 8:20 AM


Re: Weak answer
PurpleTeddyBear writes:
Their seem to be many specific rules to obtaining an SOR with Jesus. Can we lay them all out - THANKS!
I can but give you my beliefs:
  • The Bible is a guide. It is not word for word literal, but it is thought for thought literal, in my opinion.

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    Phat
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    Message 20 of 93 (358327)
    10-23-2006 2:54 PM
    Reply to: Message 15 by Straggler
    10-23-2006 12:20 PM


    Re: Knowing God
    your opinion is one of many. My belief is that God created man long before man had the ability to imagine god(s). There is only one of them, IMHO.

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