Knowing God

Why Jesus? Why not any one of a number of Gods. Past or present.The whole problem with "knowing God" is that those raised in Christian environment will "know" Jesus. Thise raised in Islamic environments will "know" Allah. Those raised in a Jewish environment will "know" Yahweh. A Hindu may well claim to "know" any number of gods. Very probably there were ancient Greeks who genuinely "knew" they had been chosen by Zeus!
Each belief set equally convinced of it's truth and it's knowledge. Each belief set incompatible to a lesser or greater degree with the asserted truths of every other. Each belief set founded on equally unprovable and nonsensical claims.Virgin birth, resurrection, transmutation, sin, Genesis etc. etc. etc. It's all just rehashed myth and legend gone amok.The only sane response is to treat them all with a healthy dose of scepticism and to rely on evidence based knowledge instead.When those of faith claim that - faith is evidence and that all the evidence they need is faith - you know they are on dodgy ground. It is a ridiculous circular argument put in place to sustain a ridiculous set of assertions.I don't doubt your faith. I just do not understand that level of gullibility. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

Personally I think your belief is the result of indoctrination but obviously you and everyone else should have a right to believe whatever they like.
As long as no physical role is put forward for gods or any other supernatural beings I have no real argument with anyone and their personal beliefs. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

All that shows is that you have both been indoctrinated by the same material. You are both members of a more widespread cult.I would hazard a guess that you are both from and/or live in a predominantly Christian country. I would also suggest it very likely that you are both from fairly Christian families. The vast majority of those of faith have exactly the same beliefs that are predominant in the culture and families in which they are raised.If you had been born in an Islamic country and raised by Muslims there is little doubt that you would be a muslim and would be claiming to "know" Allah in exactly the same way that you claim to know Christ just as every devout Muslim does indeed claim.You "know" what you have been indoctrinated to believe. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

Maybe the dope you were smoking was stronger than you anticipated Seriously though - The bible the word of God? Have you read the Koran? That also claims to be the word of God and at least has the advantage of not being repeatedly edited in order to advocate one political position or another as has been done with the bible over the centuries.
The bible is a mish mash of pagan beliefs repackaged, rebranded and manipulated over time.1) Genesis is in large part a rehashing of the ancient Gilgamesh myth (garden, naked, corrupted by woman, wickednesss into the pure world, great flood as punishment etc. etc.)
2) Mithra the Roman deity (also Mitra the Indian God of the Sun and Persian Mithra) was born of a virgin, crucified and resurrected 3 days later, his birth was celebrated on the winter solstice and his resurrection celebrated at the time we now call Easter, his followers took part in a ritual involving bread and wine and the first Christian places of worship were built on temples originally devoted to him
3) Among the religions of the day incorporating a crucifixion myth, for example, were the mystery religions of Attis, Adonis, Dionysus, and several others. Dionisus, for example, was depicted as being given a crown of ivy, dressed in a purple robe, and was given gall to drink before his crucifixion. The depiction on a Greek vase from the 5th century B.C.E. even shows a communion being prepared.Go figure. Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

You call that debate? You do sooo rate yourself. Obviously the result of having God on your side

So I had noticed At the risk of going seriously off topic may I ask what your goal actually is?
Do you have anything to say regarding the justification of the bible as the actual word of God or Christianity as more worthy of belief than any other religion (other than some flowery if well written prose asserting that because you believe something it must therefore be true)?

That pretty much sums up the self perpetuating doctrine of indoctrination.My advice to purple teddy bear is to listen to your "truth" and judge it side by side with all the other proclaimed "truths" that exist regards God, creation etc. Then ask if there is any rational basis on which to consider any one of these faith based unprovable assertions of truth superior to any other. If not there is only one sensible conclusion.
The truth is strong in this one. I hope she does not join the darkside.