Knowing God

What you have told us so far is that for some reason you think you want to know Jesus but that right now neither you or your son do know Jesus. In addition you also said that your wife and daughter do know Jesus.First, why would you want to know Jesus? It really isn't that important and is often not all that pleasant?Second, folk that tell you they "Know" Jesus as opposed to just believing they know Jesus are pretty much just fooling themselves. It is unlikely that any of us can know Jesus or GOD or the Holy Spirit while we are living.Don't worry about whether or not you "Know Jesus". You and your son try to do what is right and not do what is wrong. When you do screw up, admit it to yourself, try to make amends and try to not do that in the future. If you guys do that you will have a great life here, and in the afterlife.You can be sure that GOD loves you, even if you are unaware of his love. Nobody is born damned.It really is as simple as that.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Well, there seems to be two parts to the question, one is how to get to know Jesus. To do that we are pretty much limited in sources, there is the Bible, and other scripture that didn't make it into the canons. But that is about all the source material available to those of us still alive.The second question seems more related to some relationship. Their each individual is on his or her own. I don't know of any tests that can be applied to tell if what someone experiences when it comes to things like the supernatural are real. We could track down, perhaps, the individual neurons that fire when someone is having such an experience and say "There, there is the cause!", but is it? Could not GOD cause individual neurons to fire in a prescribed sequency to achieve His communication? Like a telephone, could not GOD or even others use the same method to communicate?As to religions, they are all creations of men. None of them are GOD.Had the question been related to GOD as opposed to limited to Jesus, then the sources would be broader, but when limited to Jesus, you are pretty much stuck with only Christian sources.Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Once again you describe your godlet as cruel and uncaring. Now you are saying that the very god that created someone must then adopt the child or the child is condemned.God created the child therefor God is automatically the father.The parent of a child has a responsibility for the upbringing and welfare of that child.If a child needs to be adopted by god as its father to avoid condemnation then it is only because god has failed in his responsibilities in the first place.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

jar said: to which iano replied:

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I think the science of how someone is physically created has been well documented. As for God creating the non-physical aspect of a person then this...

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jar writes:

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God created the child therefor God is automatically the father.

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..needs some substantiation.

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Look at the beginning of the Nicene Creed. Note the phrase "maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen."of all that isI'm sorry iano but the god you describe is simply not worth knowing, a bling-bling pimp daddy that denies he is the parent of some of his children, that gets pissed if he is dissed, that rewards or punishes his children based not on what they do but whether or not they suck up to him.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion